Toronto Tanning salon owner convicted for role in insurance fraud

[W8INLINE]

I heard that the person died was the security guard of the building. Who's to say otherwise. The guy is dead. How can you hear the two sides of the story.

P.S. I don't really know what the hell happened and to be honest I don't realy care

[esun]

"A Toronto tanning salon owner was convicted of second-degree murder Monday for his role in an insurance fraud scheme that led to one of the largest fires in the history of the city and killed one of the accomplices in the arson plan."

No where does it say in the article anything about a security guard.

[W8INLINE]

No, not in the article. I never said that. I tall man with a mustache and a heavy accent said that at a bar a few years back as he was "drowning his sorrows"(sp) when I overheard him say that his son, a security guard, was working and Adrian blew up a building with his son in it. As he was talking he mentioned his son's name. I recognized it because he had been a regular customer of mine, very friendly guy and all the girls working for me knew him.

Thats the first and last I heard of this till now...

[Din]

If i hire someone to kill someone and something happens and they get caught....should i not go to jail or have anything done to me? I wasn't there....so what's the big deal right. I didn't kill the person, the hired assasin did....what does that anything to do with me?

[Uvangel]

This is my last comment on this. I don't like to argue opinion’s only facts. This is a matter of opinion, Not fact! The facts are -Yes he was involved in fraud! This is how I understood it: The owner of the building wanted to burn it down to make some cash to build condo's on the land. The owner asked Adrian if he could help by finding someone to light the fire. He did. That's where he F***ed up!! He did not hire someone to kill someone else! One of the arsonists got stuck in the fire and died. Both arsonists were grown men capable of making decision. They decided to start the fire. No one was holding guns to their heads. So I guess my point is yes he is guilty of fraud, but not murder. This man death was a tragic accident. Yes, I understand your point of view, if there was no fire he would still be here. He could have said no and not gotten involved and he would still be alive. I am not saying Adrian is not guilty, he is for fraud. That’s all I have to say about this. (I got all my information for google if anyone wants to read more about this)
Din, Yes if you go out and hire someone to kill someone then yes your guilty!! He did not want to kill anyone.
If I ask someone to go skydiving with me and they say yes. We go and something goes wrong and they die. Am I responsible?

[W8INLINE]

A.

I did not get my info from the internet or the newspapers. I only heard one side of the story unlike the judge who made a decision based on evidence presented from both sides. His opinion counts, not mine or yours.

So I am not pointing any fingers or putting the blame on anyone.

I don't think anyone should. Just like us outsiders can't make CLAIMS on whether he's guilty of this and not that and he meant to f@ck the insurance company and not another human being and so on...

[Uvangel]

I get your point. I just feel very very bad for all involved. I personal think the judge was to hard on him for his involvement that’s all. I don't want to start a war. He's a good guy who made a big mistake!!! I guess you could say that about allot of people.

[Din]

And now he must pay for his mistake.

[Editor-in-Chief]

Man gets life for role in fatal Christmas Day arson

toronto.ctv.ca

A Toronto tanning salon owner has been sentenced to life in prison for his role in plotting an insurance fraud scheme fire that killed a co-conspirator.

Adrian Roks, 37, will not be eligible for parole for 10 years after being convicted of second-degree murder.

The Crown said Roks planned the Christmas Day 2001 fire at the Woodbine Building Supply on Danforth and Woodbine Avenues so he could claim more than $3 million from his insurance company.

The blaze erupted into a six-alarm fire that required more than 170 firefighters to bring it under control. More than 50 families had to be evacuated from their homes.

Anthony Jarcevic was killed after using gasoline and other accelerants to light the fire inside the building. Another accomplice who was also inside was badly disfigured.

"For a quick buck you caused the death of Anthony Jarcevic, seriously disfigured a co-conspirator and endangered the lives of ordinary citizens," Madam Justice Gloria Epstein said on Tuesday as she passed sentence.

"For your greed and stupidity you will pay dearly and so will your family."

Roks was convicted in the summer of second-degree murder. While the judge said Roks didn't intend for anyone to die in the arson scheme, she said he was involved in an "unlawful object" and knew the fire was "likely to cause death."

The owner of the building, John Magno, will stand trial for second-degree murder next year.

Source

[Din]

Yup...just heard it on the radio not long ago. Sentenced to life in prison.

I still don't see why they had to say "tanning salon owner".....what does that have anything to do with it? Do they say McDonalds Cashier carjacks someone? NO....so why mention his occupation.

[xcrowdog]

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If I ask someone to go skydiving with me and they say yes. We go and something goes wrong and they die. Am I responsible?[/quote]

Well no your not, cause Skydiving isnt illegel, arson is, fraud is, and so is murder, be it maybe it was an accident but a person died, the courts sees it in a bigger picture. someone has to be held accountable. shitty deal but!!!

[uv2021]

Din,quite often a person's proffession {yes tanning salon owner qualifies} is used as an additional descriptive so that 2 people who have the same name are not confused.So this time they are not picking on us.IE ,Robert Pickton a pig farmer charged with 26 slayings......

[Uvangel]

xcrowdog, "someone has to be held accountable." Why not the man who started the fire??? 2 men started this fire one has sadly passed on, but the other is living a free life!!!!!!!!!!! Why????
I don't want to get into this with you because there is no right or wrong. IMO Adrian is a great guy. I have known him since 2001. He may have been involved in this, But to pay with his life is just to harsh (IMO). Especially when the man who started the fire is free!!!!! If you want all the facts, read the court documents.

[xcrowdog]

I Totally agree with you 100%

[Din]

Nobody knows what really happened unless they were there...

If i hire someone to kill my wife...because i didn't actually slit her throat or pull the trigger. I shouldn't have to go to jail. right?

Same shi't different smell.

[effective]

Gotta love the court system. This "tanning salon owner" gets 2nd degree murder, the same charge as Robert Pickton. What a joke!

[Uvangel]

Din, it's not same. No matter what I say, you will never agree with me. So how about we agree to disagree on this one??

[Jones]

And OJ goes free?!?! WoW!
He certainly did not deserve life and the other guy deserved something too!

[Din]

OJ is innocent...what are you talking about?

Sounds like the others were "sub-contracted"....for his involvement...he got the same as if he was there and lit the fuse himself.

I don't have anything against him....heck, he'd refer customers to me.

[Uvangel]

The "master mind's" trial starts next month. I would like to see what kind of time he's going to get!