Home
Homepage Forums Advertise with Us Arcade Gallery Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   TanToday - Helping Salon Owners, One At A Time, Since 2000! > SALON OWNERS > Canadian Forum

Visit Our Sponsors!

Canadian Forum The Canadian Forum is for those Canucks to our North. Share stories about government intervention, socialized health care or hockey. Seriously, anything related to Canadian tanning should go here.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 25th July 2008, 07:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
Hall of Famer
 
Island Cove's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,124
Default Grand theft.

Anyone in canada know what $$ amount is considered grand theft?
__________________
We are the creators of our own life experiences through thought. Thought becomes things, good or bad. Think positive.
Island Cove is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 25th July 2008, 07:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
Moderator
 
Shane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: The Swamp
Posts: 1,820
Send a message via AIM to Shane
Default Re: Grand theft.

Sounds like you caught an employee stealing today too???
__________________
http://www.tantoday.com/forums/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=55&dateline=118969964  2.
Shane is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 25th July 2008, 07:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
Hall of Famer
 
JustTans23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: MA
Posts: 2,649
Default Re: Grand theft.



[edit] Canada

Theft is dealt with by Part 9 of the Criminal Code of Canada which is the part that covers property crime. Section 322 in Part 9 creates a general definition of theft, while other sections such as section 326 (which deals with the theft of gas, electricity and telecommunication services) define special kinds of theft. According to the general definition in section 322 a person steals a thing if he or she takes or converts it fraudulently, without colour of right and with intent to deprive the owner of it, either permanently or temporarily. For the purposes of punishment theft is divided into two separate offences by section 334 depending on the value and nature of the goods stolen. If the thing stolen is worth more than $5000 or is a testamentary instrument the offence is commonly referred to as Theft Over $5000 and is an indictable offence with a maximum punishment of 10 years imprisonment. Where the stolen item is not a testamentary instrument and is not worth more than $5000 it is known as Theft Under $5000 and is a hybrid offence, meaning that it can be treated either as an indictable offence or a less serious summary conviction offence, depending on the choice of the prosecutor. If dealt with as an indictable offence Theft Under $5000 is punishable by imprisonment for not more than 2 years and, if treated as a summary conviction offence, 6 months imprisonment, a fine of $2000 or both.
__________________
JustTans23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th July 2008, 07:08 PM   #4 (permalink)
Hall of Famer
 
JustTans23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: MA
Posts: 2,649
Default Re: Grand theft.

don't know if that helps? I'm too lazy to read.
__________________
JustTans23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th July 2008, 07:09 PM   #5 (permalink)
Moderator
 
Shane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: The Swamp
Posts: 1,820
Send a message via AIM to Shane
Default Re: Grand theft.

Just is that from Wiki? I was just about to post that...lol
__________________
http://www.tantoday.com/forums/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=55&dateline=118969964  2.
Shane is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 25th July 2008, 07:17 PM   #6 (permalink)
Hall of Famer
 
Island Cove's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,124
Default Re: Grand theft.

WEll, Since Monday, we've been finding things, but today she ran out of excuses. lol. Free tans to people put in as Employee tans, even on Robs profile and employee's profiles that don't work for us anymore. she had some bullsheit excuses that the timer system went funny, and to fix it she shut if off, and all the beds shut off so she'd restart them using ET code on Employee profile. lol but we all know that beds don't shut off if you unplug the Tmax. but today, my girl cracking the whip in there stumbled across a girl booked, highlighted that she tanned, bought a lotion packet on her profile, but no tan, but at that exact time, in the exact bed, a ET tan was put on an employee's profile, who happend to be on vacation then, and so My girl confronted her and said lets see if this happens every time she buys a packet. sure enough. All using the same employee's code. computer doesn't lie. this has been going on since May just with this one person. and we saw plenty of questionable things, all done by this girl. Almost always, tans in the HP unit. Drop ins are worth $35. so we will add them all up and see what we get! Stupid girl. And I told her that the program records every keystroke.
__________________
We are the creators of our own life experiences through thought. Thought becomes things, good or bad. Think positive.

Last edited by Island Cove : 25th July 2008 at 07:20 PM.
Island Cove is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 25th July 2008, 07:22 PM   #7 (permalink)
Hall of Famer
 
Island Cove's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,124
Default Re: Grand theft.

JustTans, thats great. I wouldn't have even known where to look. Thanks
__________________
We are the creators of our own life experiences through thought. Thought becomes things, good or bad. Think positive.
Island Cove is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 25th July 2008, 07:34 PM   #8 (permalink)
Hall of Famer
 
JustTans23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: MA
Posts: 2,649
Default Re: Grand theft.

NP IC. I just googled canadian grand theft and that came up

Yep shane is was from Wiki, it ended up pasting the entire article! So then I had to go back in and edit to just the candian part.
__________________
JustTans23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th July 2008, 07:34 PM   #9 (permalink)
Hall of Famer
 
JustTans23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: MA
Posts: 2,649
Default Re: Grand theft.

PS. do you have cameras? Might be time to get them. I love mine
__________________
JustTans23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th July 2008, 08:22 PM   #10 (permalink)
Moderator
 
Shane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: The Swamp
Posts: 1,820
Send a message via AIM to Shane
Default Re: Grand theft.

For fans of cameras. This was yesterday and found it today and had the cops come arrest her this afternoon.

Cameras still won't deter the stupid ones.

DropShots.com
__________________
http://www.tantoday.com/forums/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=55&dateline=118969964  2.
Shane is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 25th July 2008, 08:29 PM   #11 (permalink)
Rob
Old ******** Member
 
Rob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Canada
Posts: 881
Default Re: Grand theft.

does she not know there is a camera there?
__________________
www.islcovetravel.com
Rob is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 25th July 2008, 08:49 PM   #12 (permalink)
Hall of Famer
 
JustTans23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: MA
Posts: 2,649
Default Re: Grand theft.

That must of been so fun Shane!! I love when I catch people stealing now. It must of been fun to have her arrested. I just pointed a camera at the register so now I'll catch that too.

And like Rob said, did she not know about the camera?
__________________
JustTans23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th July 2008, 08:51 PM   #13 (permalink)
Hall of Famer
 
SandiGirl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Canada
Posts: 3,808
Default Re: Grand theft.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shane View Post
For fans of cameras. This was yesterday and found it today and had the cops come arrest her this afternoon.

Cameras still won't deter the stupid ones.

DropShots.com
So she put someone in a bed and took money OUT of the till???
__________________
************************************************** *****************

Grammar Tip of the Year - Apostrophes are for condensing and belonging...NOT pluralizing.

SandiGirl ~ Changing tanning forums one apostrophe at a time.
SandiGirl is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 25th July 2008, 09:48 PM   #14 (permalink)
Moderator
 
Shane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: The Swamp
Posts: 1,820
Send a message via AIM to Shane
Default Re: Grand theft.

First they do know cameras are there, and that I watch from home regularly. They know they record also, but guess they think I don't rewatch(which most of the time I don't, not enough hours in the day). I was out of town and I'm sure she knew I wouldn't be watching.

The person she tanned in the video was right after the one who did mystic who she didn't ring up and tanned under one of my all access clients. She just happened to snag the cash after she sent the next one in line to tan.

She was texting her boyfriend in the video, who showed up 10 minutes later to pick up the cash. The cop wouldn't arrest him, as she said he didn't know where the money came from
__________________
http://www.tantoday.com/forums/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=55&dateline=118969964  2.
Shane is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 25th July 2008, 09:58 PM   #15 (permalink)
Off The Chain Moderator
 
Brian Oshman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: The Sun Doctor, Califon, NJ
Posts: 6,486
Default Re: Grand theft.

Quote:
The cop wouldn't arrest him, as she said he didn't know where the money came from
Yeah, they can't arrest him, she took the money and when he came in she just gave him money. He was not present nor reached into the till so he is cannot be procecuted. If she directly handed him money out of the till on camera then that might be a different story.
__________________


Three can keep a secret if two are dead.
Brian Oshman is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 25th July 2008, 09:58 PM   #16 (permalink)
Hall of Famer
 
JustTans23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: MA
Posts: 2,649
Default Re: Grand theft.

I saw her handing the money to someone in another video you had up there, I was wondering who it was (sorry I snooped haha)

I need to figure out why i can't watch my cameras from home ne more, itwas working and now its not, all i can do now is replay it when i get to teh salon, and that takes forever.
__________________
JustTans23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th July 2008, 12:04 AM   #17 (permalink)
Hall of Famer
 
Island Cove's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,124
Default Re: Grand theft.

question. If a client knows an employee is tanning them for free can they be charged also?
__________________
We are the creators of our own life experiences through thought. Thought becomes things, good or bad. Think positive.
Island Cove is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 26th July 2008, 12:06 AM   #18 (permalink)
Hall of Famer
 
Island Cove's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,124
Default Re: Grand theft.

I have 2 sets of camera's in that salon, one old style that was already there that records to old fashion VHS, which was not recording, and another d-link which also was not recording, but going through the computer, the apointment book, work schedule, and employee ##, we can find free tans going out as employee tans dating back as far as May.
__________________
We are the creators of our own life experiences through thought. Thought becomes things, good or bad. Think positive.
Island Cove is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 26th July 2008, 09:50 AM   #19 (permalink)
All Star
 
ekc123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: GA
Posts: 104
Default Re: Grand theft.

holy cow, I am shocked. The customer must have not seen the camera. some people have no respect.
ekc123 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 26th July 2008, 01:04 PM   #20 (permalink)
Hall of Famer
 
JustTans23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: MA
Posts: 2,649
Default Re: Grand theft.

IC, that is a good question. My guess is no. Maybe you can charge the customer but then you wouldn't be able to get the money back from your employee. You can't recover your damages twice.

I would also think you would only be able to charge the customer if you were positive they knew what was going on was wrong. Like it was your employee's friend or relative or something and they knew that the employee was not charging them but wasn't allowed to do that. Otherwise the employee could tell the customer that they earned the free tan somehow.
__________________
JustTans23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:39 AM.
 
Copyright © 2008 by Virgo Publishing LLC, all rights reserved.
P.O. Box 40079, Phoenix, AZ 85067-0079
Phone: 480-990-1101 - Email: admin@tantoday.com
Privacy statement Terms of use