Hair Remover Machine

[Jim Fisher]

You don't have to be licensed to use this machine.. This machine wont allow hair to grow back..

[Ziti]

What's the skinny on this machine? Who makes it, how much?

[Sherin]

I am also interested...

Do they have a web-site?

[Jim Fisher]

I will have some info on this machine sometime next week

[AlexR]

We offer laser hair removal at our day spas. Wonder how this compares. There seems to be a number of choices these days but so far, none as effective as laser.

Jim, post a website or company name/info on these guys and I will do some research.

[imported_Hollywood]

The CMP is a "Constant Multi-Pulse system. It is a laser (our secret) but doesn`t allow dangerous spikes like the IPL systems.

[imported_Hollywood]

We are in the process of finishing our web site it will be on the www.hollywoodsun.net site.

[AlexR]

If it's laser then how in the world will you get FDA approval to administer this via self-service without medical supervision?

I can't imagine selling/buying this without FDA approval since hair removal/reduction is subject to FDA review before released to the public.

Ok, no spikes - that's great. Now talk to us about efficacy of this device.

[imported_Hollywood]

FDA classifications are determined by Device listing, class one class two etc. anything class two or more requires a Certified Medical License. That class is determined on the strength of the laser. Our laser is as strong as a type two but we have devoloped (Company Secret) Pat. Pending 21 CFT-862-892reg. the ability to control the light wavelength from 530-980 nm. This process will destroy the hair follicle root and not allow the hair to ever grow again. And be listed as a type one laser.

[AlexR]

This is very interesting but I can't help but be cynical. There is NOTHING short of electrolysis (painful & time consuming) that can claim to permanently rid a person of hair. Even the laser processes cannot claim this according to FTC and FDA. The words that they must use are 'Permanent Hair Reduction'. This is due to the fact that even after a series of 3-6 laser treatments, some of the hair can grow back after a year or so. It grows back much finer and thinner but more times than not, does slightly grow back.

Are you making the claim 'guaranteed to eliminate hair permanantly'?

Like I said, this is extemely interesting to me and many others, I'm sure. But with this type of stuff you're not playing with toys so all bases have to be covered 100% honestly and legitamately.

[imported_Hollywood]

As with anything, there are no 100% guarantees. For the majority of people that have been using this machine in Europe, there has not been any cases of hair regrowth. The machine is called CMP, permanent hair removal. Lets just say that you have a client that is taking testosterone replacement or anything similar to that, he of course will have hair regrowth, because as we all know, that encourages hair growth. There are also other pharmaceuticals on the market that cause hair regrowth. As for the laser question, our system does not have a "peak".Therefore, with a laser, such as electrlosys, it is painful because it is not a constant light, it is short intermittent rays with a peak in the pulse and that peak causes the pain. With our system, it is a constant pulse of light with no painful peak.There is only a light tingle to the skin that the customer feels.

[imported_Hollywood]

By permanent, we mean it permanently removes the existing hair. It will discourage hair regrowth, so the hair can grow back in lighter and less than before. It may take years though. The benefit is that this machine is so much less expensive than the type 2 laser, so your customers can get it done evry 2 or 3 years and still not have the expense of the other systems.
Also, with our machine, it is a constant light, not intermittent light. Therefore it isnt painful. There is no spike in the pulse, thats what makes electrolysis painful, the spike. Remember, just like with tanning,every person has different skin types. Some people will notice longer lasting results than others.

[Jim Fisher]

My wife use to get those treatments with that painful laser thing and it looked nasty for a coulple of days and she had to keep going back for years.. If this new system works as good without any pain it will be a postive direction, now if they can do the same thing to make hair grow .. Im in

[AlexR]

Hollywood, sent you an email 2 days ago.

Will you kindly post the abstract for this system showing efficacy, side affects, etc. This is something you should have since it sounds like you're already in the importing stage with this process.

Thanks.

[AlexR]

???

[Matthew]

Hollywood has left the house....

[imported_Hollywood]

Thank You all for being so patience. I will try and answer all your questions in the next couple of days. I will get detailed answers for you. I have just been very busy the past couple of days.The more questions you have the better the opportunity to prove our system works. However I am relying on information supplied to me from Europe. I will post the abstract within the next 24 hrs.

[imported_down under]

I just had IPL done this past weekend and the big worry was that I had no tan. Does this system react badly to a tan? Also they said that I could not tan for 1 month after the treatment because of hyperpigmentation. Another issue is that I have to have 3 treatments because of the growth patterns of the hair. How many for your system?

[AlexR]

It's now 12/14 and still nothing. Credibility going down fast.

[Jim Fisher]

I will send Barry an E mail this morning since Im out of town right now.