Lumiere before and after pictures - TanToday - Helping Salon Owners, One At A Time, Since 2000!

Jim Fisher · 3rd March 2005, 11:10 AM

Le · 3rd March 2005, 12:52 PM

Thanks for posting the pics for us Marster37.

How did mom always say it..... The proof is in the puddin

-Tom Brookshire
Lumiere elite

Matthew · 3rd March 2005, 07:09 PM

Why do most before and after pictures look like a different flash was used?

Le · 3rd March 2005, 08:26 PM

Same camera, same setting, same flash.

However, the first photos are from our temp. location whlie we were waiting for our build out to get done. That space had an off-white wall, our new space has a greyish, purpleish, brownish tone. (I myself am color blind). That may expalin your question.

Sorry but there is no trick photography here. Just the truth.

-Tom

imported_Standby · 7th March 2005, 01:41 AM

I dont want to sound rude but I thought this guy had been captured

Le · 7th March 2005, 03:36 PM

I had to go back and look at the pics to see what you were talking about. I had to laugh. He does work in Russia, Hummmmmm

masstan · 11th March 2005, 06:42 PM

how many sessions and in what time frame did these people get these results? what percentage of people have been unhappy with their results?

Le · 14th March 2005, 01:09 PM

The lady had 12 sessions, the guy had 12 sessions. Keep in mind that the results build for upto 90 days. Both pictures were taken at about 30 days from the start of their sessions.

We have had a 100% success rate.

-Tom

Jake · 20th March 2005, 09:16 PM

Took me a while to see the difference but I think that was due to the different shading of the photos (and my poor vision). I believe if marketed right its very successful, have a friend that is doing well with hers. I understand JeffinKC had his up for sale a while back, anybody know why? Wrong market, bad results, or poor marketing? Just wonder for the people who are unsuccessful what the cause of failure may be.

What is the cost of maintenance on the unit, cost per session etc?

Le · 21st March 2005, 09:56 AM

When we purchased the unit it had an option for a 10,000 hour warranty for like $900.00...we bought it.

Cost per session $.15-.20 est. (Still working on that) Tri-pack for session = $4.50 (cost) Lamps ????? LED's should last for a good 30,000 hours.

Solar Meter Steve needs to make a 633 nm model # 69 for us Lumiere people.

-Tom

BTW - RAI is still fighting with the FDA to release 415 nm since the doctors are fighting to classify all acne as a medical condition. I say it's too much pizza and poor hygiene

virongo121@netzero.com · 13th October 2006, 03:52 PM

I put the blame on the vendor. it took them 2 years b-4 they really did any kind of marketing. I did everything they suggested and it didn't work.

solarmeter® · 13th October 2006, 08:00 PM

What didn't work.... the marketing plan or the machine?

Got the final Model 9.6 Red Light meter calibration data 2 days ago. It came out very close to the prototype meters already in use. Now ordering label stickers.... will be done in a couple weeks.

Meter bandwidth: 577-661 nm at 10% power points. Peak: 548 nm. Response at 633 nm: 97%. Range: 0-199.9 mW/cm².

Be on the lookout for a new player never before heard from soon... maybe will debut at Nashville.

Island Cove · 13th October 2006, 08:35 PM

Just wish we could have this unit in Canada

Ziti · 13th October 2006, 10:37 PM

Why can't you Cove?
I would not put my money on it.. REAL skincare savy "educated" works much better here. Light Therapy is a good thing, but it takes education.
Don't let them blow light up your arse

Rob · 14th October 2006, 01:13 AM

Zita, health Canada won't allow it into Canada.

Alan @ TanToday · 14th October 2006, 01:35 AM

Looks pretty good. If you can make Sadam Hussain look better, imagine what it will do for the rest of the people of the world.

solarmeter® · 14th October 2006, 12:29 PM

Quote:

health Canada won't allow it into Canada

Why? Red Light is not even regulated by the FDA.

Ask Doug how to "pay them off" to allow it!

Le · 14th October 2006, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan @ TanToday

Looks pretty good. If you can make Sadam Hussain look better, imagine what it will do for the rest of the people of the world.

You should see the full face shot!

solarmeter® · 14th October 2006, 12:54 PM

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nebtans · 29th October 2006, 09:42 PM

I am interested in your light meter.

My LED array consist of 516 Leds mounted on a 12 inch circular disc which is flat. the leds do not have a converging focal point, rather each Led is pointed straight out from the disc.

Can your light meter measure this type of light output?

Also do you have any specs on other light machines to compare outputs?

3rd March 2005, 11:10 AM	#1 (permalink)
Jim Fisher Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 3,506	Lumiere before and after pictures

3rd March 2005, 12:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
Le Hall of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cloud 9 Posts: 1,388	Thanks for posting the pics for us Marster37. How did mom always say it..... The proof is in the puddin -Tom Brookshire Lumiere elite __________________ "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." - Aristotle "The first step to becoming is to will it." - Mother Teresa

3rd March 2005, 08:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
Le Hall of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cloud 9 Posts: 1,388	Same camera, same setting, same flash. However, the first photos are from our temp. location whlie we were waiting for our build out to get done. That space had an off-white wall, our new space has a greyish, purpleish, brownish tone. (I myself am color blind). That may expalin your question. Sorry but there is no trick photography here. Just the truth. -Tom __________________ "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." - Aristotle "The first step to becoming is to will it." - Mother Teresa

7th March 2005, 03:36 PM	#6 (permalink)
Le Hall of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cloud 9 Posts: 1,388	I had to go back and look at the pics to see what you were talking about. I had to laugh. He does work in Russia, Hummmmmm __________________ "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." - Aristotle "The first step to becoming is to will it." - Mother Teresa

14th March 2005, 01:09 PM	#8 (permalink)
Le Hall of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cloud 9 Posts: 1,388	The lady had 12 sessions, the guy had 12 sessions. Keep in mind that the results build for upto 90 days. Both pictures were taken at about 30 days from the start of their sessions. We have had a 100% success rate. -Tom __________________ "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." - Aristotle "The first step to becoming is to will it." - Mother Teresa

3rd March 2005, 07:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
Matthew Will work for beer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: South of Alaska Posts: 357	Why do most before and after pictures look like a different flash was used?

7th March 2005, 01:41 AM	#5 (permalink)
imported_Standby Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 49	I dont want to sound rude but I thought this guy had been captured

11th March 2005, 06:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
masstan Rookie Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: new england Posts: 25	how many sessions and in what time frame did these people get these results? what percentage of people have been unhappy with their results?

20th March 2005, 09:16 PM	#9 (permalink)
Jake Super Star Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: south Posts: 522	Took me a while to see the difference but I think that was due to the different shading of the photos (and my poor vision). I believe if marketed right its very successful, have a friend that is doing well with hers. I understand JeffinKC had his up for sale a while back, anybody know why? Wrong market, bad results, or poor marketing? Just wonder for the people who are unsuccessful what the cause of failure may be. What is the cost of maintenance on the unit, cost per session etc?

21st March 2005, 09:56 AM	#10 (permalink)
Le Hall of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cloud 9 Posts: 1,388	When we purchased the unit it had an option for a 10,000 hour warranty for like $900.00...we bought it. Cost per session $.15-.20 est. (Still working on that) Tri-pack for session = $4.50 (cost) Lamps ????? LED's should last for a good 30,000 hours. Solar Meter Steve needs to make a 633 nm model # 69 for us Lumiere people. -Tom BTW - RAI is still fighting with the FDA to release 415 nm since the doctors are fighting to classify all acne as a medical condition. I say it's too much pizza and poor hygiene __________________ "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." - Aristotle "The first step to becoming is to will it." - Mother Teresa

13th October 2006, 03:52 PM	#11 (permalink)
virongo121@netzero.com Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pasadena.calif Posts: 11	Re: Lumiere before and after pictures I put the blame on the vendor. it took them 2 years b-4 they really did any kind of marketing. I did everything they suggested and it didn't work.

13th October 2006, 08:00 PM	#12 (permalink)
solarmeter® UV Geek Squad Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Lake St Clair Posts: 3,327	Re: Lumiere before and after pictures What didn't work.... the marketing plan or the machine? Got the final Model 9.6 Red Light meter calibration data 2 days ago. It came out very close to the prototype meters already in use. Now ordering label stickers.... will be done in a couple weeks. Meter bandwidth: 577-661 nm at 10% power points. Peak: 548 nm. Response at 633 nm: 97%. Range: 0-199.9 mW/cm². Be on the lookout for a new player never before heard from soon... maybe will debut at Nashville.

13th October 2006, 08:35 PM	#13 (permalink)
Island Cove The Good, The Bad, The Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,187	Re: Lumiere before and after pictures Just wish we could have this unit in Canada

13th October 2006, 10:37 PM	#14 (permalink)
Ziti Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: in my mind Posts: 2,340	Re: Lumiere before and after pictures Why can't you Cove? I would not put my money on it.. REAL skincare savy "educated" works much better here. Light Therapy is a good thing, but it takes education. Don't let them blow light up your arse

14th October 2006, 01:13 AM	#15 (permalink)
Rob Old ******** Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 884	Re: Lumiere before and after pictures Zita, health Canada won't allow it into Canada.

14th October 2006, 01:35 AM	#16 (permalink)
Alan @ TanToday Checks and Balances Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 6,163	Re: Lumiere before and after pictures Looks pretty good. If you can make Sadam Hussain look better, imagine what it will do for the rest of the people of the world. __________________ Alan "America is too great for small dreams" - Ronald Reagan

14th October 2006, 12:54 PM	#19 (permalink)
solarmeter® UV Geek Squad Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Lake St Clair Posts: 3,327	Re: Lumiere before and after pictures BEFORE: AFTER:

29th October 2006, 09:42 PM	#20 (permalink)
nebtans Super Star Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: tx Posts: 790	Re: Lumiere before and after pictures I am interested in your light meter. My LED array consist of 516 Leds mounted on a 12 inch circular disc which is flat. the leds do not have a converging focal point, rather each Led is pointed straight out from the disc. Can your light meter measure this type of light output? Also do you have any specs on other light machines to compare outputs?

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