Infrared Saunas

[Beach Bum]

I've been doing alot or research on the Inrared body wraps from Formostar and Thermojet. During my search I keep coming up with infrared sauna treatments. They appear to be just as effective, and the cost to do the saunas is a fifth of the cost.

The infra sauna treatments range from a traditional sauna to a dome type unit. The more I've read about the bodywraps and these, I don't see much difference. Both cause you to burn calories by the body trying to cool itself down (which increases cardiovuscular activity). Anyone know more about these treatments?

[smileysnob]

I would like to know mroe if anyone does...

[Beach Bum]

Of course the sauna also do the detox and soothes jionts and muscles. All the stuff Formostar and Thermo Jet claim.

[Beach Bum]

No more responses? Din? You gotta know something about these?

[Brian Oshman]

That is true. Why not just put in a dry sauna? Well because that is just a bigger investment. Wraps are much cheaper to test the waters with.

Sounds like bringing back the old days in the the upper northeast with hot tubs and tanning in the same place. So I guess the next step is tanning and dry sauna?

Can't get away from the hefty electric bill with that idea.

[Beach Bum]

Brian, I am talking about specialize units, not saunas like you find in a health club.

The saunas are all less than $4k, as compared to $8k for body wraps. There are "sauna domes" that you lay in, similar to Formostar and Thermojet. These units are $2k. And this includes more brands than just InfraTherapist.

I research Formostar and Thermojet pretty thoroughly. Formostar even had a study done and the study had referneces to infrared saunas and their effectiveness. And how Formostar could also be as effective.

Doing my research I did find traditional sauna. The ones you walk into and sit down. You can purchase those for less than $4k too.

[Beach Bum]

here's a link to one of the unit.

http://www.thewolfeclinic.com/aesta/aesta-dome.html

thoughts?

[Parrot Head]

here's another link to the one that I have; www.sunlightsauna.com I have a three person and paid about $3400 for it. Like everything else which I put in my spa last year, it doesn't get used at all. I got this unit sitting there; I've got aqua massage bed just sitting there; I've got a 12x14 room which I built for a massage therepist just sitting there and I've got two other rooms for body wraps just sitting there.

[wreet2]

parrot u better sell to wreet2......lol

[Parrot Head]

Darin, Make me an offer. Talk is cheap.

[Din]

From my perspective before i bought Formostar.....was this.

As a customer wanting to try this. Would i want to sit in an eclosed sauna (clostrauphobic) by myself like a gas chamber????

Would i want to lay in an escape pod, again enclosed (clostrauphobia) where i cant move freely....

and i'm not clostrauphobic and don't really care if i'm enclosed...but as a customer?????

One question i keep getting asked before i show them the actual room is...am i enclosed or limited and can't move in a body suit or enclosure? Once i show them the room and explain it to them...they say "oh, okay..." and they buy.

That is the reason that "I" chose to go with formostar instead. Whether they are just as effective or work the same and have the same benefits....they will get used far less than a body wrap for those reasons alone. They will also probably cost a hell of a lot more to operate to power an entire room/sauna or capsule than some silicone pads which cost pennies to run.

So price wise....it didn't even matter to me. And there are plenty of units available out there at a fraction of the price.

[Beach Bum]

The dome unit are quoted as not using that much power. i do get your point are being unable to move in the dome. What i do like about the dome is the entire body is inside it and getting exposed to the FIR, whereas the wraps are only in contact with certain areas of the body. But I'm sure the FIR spreads out to the other areas of the body.

I'm just trying to figure out which one works best, and which one appeals best to customers. I think they best have pros and cons.

[Beach Bum]

I think I'm just posting to myself on this thread, but ...

I have been polling my customers on which they would prefer : the Formostar body wraps or the Inrared Sauna Dome (the link i posted previously in this thread). And surprisingly the customers are picking the sauna dome. The reason, the constirction of the belts on the body wraps.

I want to add one of these units, but just can't decide. Everyone here says bodywraps. But best I can tell, both give similar results and since the customer is saying Sauna Dome...?!?

Need more input

[Din]

With the wraps they get to watch TV cuz they will be bored out of their minds for that long.....put them in a capsule and after 15minutes they'll be calling you to take them out and asking for their money back.

[sunsally]

I'm paying attention Beach Bum - just haven't posted yet!


I think the wraps will seem more like a "service". I think because of that, they will command a higher price point than what people think they should pay to just lay on a mat with a top over them.

The sauna dome thing reminds me more of an aquamassage bed or something like that - and we know how well THOSE do for most salon owners!

In my market, every spring there are commercials running constantly for Body Wrap companies. With a wrap system, I think you could piggy back on them creating the awareness -- less so for a sauna dome.

I think the "constriction" of the wraps is part of what will make it FEEL like it is working. They cover enough parts of the body that I don't think people will feel they are missing too much. While they seem like they have many benefits for pain management, when it comes to weight loss, I think the tight fitting pads will have people more conscious of those areas -- and feel like they are working better.

Now -- I was starting to lean toward Formostar....

But when I just went to Yahoo and put in "body wraps" -- in the "paid ad" box, 3rd one, up pops - Thermojet.

Went through a few pages, didn't come Formostar

Did the same thing on Google -- neither came up right away.

But the company that gets the best visibility for themselves will help ME when customers go looking ---so I'm leaning to Thermojet now.....

[Din]

I never ever click on the sponsored pages when i do a search for anything. Thermojet comes up there but nowhere else. To me...that's useless.

Do a search on Thermojet and on Formostar.

Thermojet has about 3 pages of links/info from websites, Formostar has about 15 pages. To me, that's worth more.

All i know is that when i googled "Infrared Body wrap", my website came up on the first and second page. Just below Thermojet's website.... HAHAHAHAHA....now THAT is worth more than anything.!!!! also found many many links on Formostar....only the 1 for thermojet.

[Kathe]

We've had ours almost a year now and I'm very happy with it. We are changing our salon around so we can add a 2nd one. The first thing I sold this morning was a 6-session package. I have a client coming in at 3 for a wrap.

And....we have several clients driving quite a distance who found us on the Formostar website. That is so cool!!!

Kathe

[Old Pilgrim]

I have done it both ways, Years ago, I put Infrared saunas in both my salons. Many people will try anything new you bring to the salon, so of course we did ok the first couple of months. After the initial trials we couldn't pay someone to go into the Sauna box. And we were only charging $10 to use it for 30 minutes. Ask the members here what they charge for an Infrared Body Wrap treatment. The answers will be anywhere from $90 for a single session to possibly in some area's as low as $40 to $50. The Infrared Body wraps target the heat to the area's the clients are trying to affect a change (reduction). The client is laying on a comfortable massage table, reading a magazine or watching a TV with a cool fan on the face totally relaxing while the Infrared heat is melting away the body fat. Spa Like It always goes back to "you get what you pay for". You buy an entry level tanning bed and you get $5 per session. You buy a high pressure tanning bed, you get $40 per session. I am not much of a gambler, but I would bet a lot that you would not find a single salon that is commanding $60 on the average for a session in a sauna box. Infrared Body Wraps are hot! As Din said, just do a keyword search and you'll see the hundreds and hundreds of salons that made the Infrared Body Wrap decision.

[Parrot Head]

I too, get $10 for a 30 minute session in my box sauna. I haven't had anyone do a sauna in two months. Like anything, when it's new, ya push it and sell more. Then, you lower your price and sell less; or should I say, you sell less and lower your price.

[wreet2]

I do well with my sauna..... my goal was to sell 20 ppl a year at 249.00 at each store to cover my expense and i was able to do that now i sell it as a add on to a month unlimited tanning for exta 30 bucks and it works well