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Old 22nd December 2005, 06:16 PM   #61 (permalink)
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How about getting fired no reason at all?
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Old 22nd December 2005, 06:25 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Its happens all the time. In Maryland, where I am, we are an At Will employment state which means you can be fired or quit at any time for any reason short of discrimination.
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Old 22nd December 2005, 09:18 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Its happens all the time. In Maryland, where I am, we are an At Will employment state which means you can be fired or quit at any time for any reason short of discrimination.
Unless, of course, your ex-employee convinces a judge or a jury that your employment manual created rights for them that they didn't have under your state law. That is one of my concerns about any manual that even talks about things like "probationary" employees -- it implies you have some sort of job security once your probation period expires.
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Old 23rd December 2005, 12:11 AM   #64 (permalink)
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I don't use an employment manual at our salon.
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Old 25th December 2005, 07:22 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Would love a copy of the manual.

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Old 28th December 2005, 11:57 AM   #66 (permalink)
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Can u please send me a copy of the Policy Manual as well. thanks.
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Old 28th December 2005, 02:00 PM   #67 (permalink)
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The manual is now online.

Click http://www.tantoday.com/images/manual.zip

And when the popup comes up, click on Save. Its in a zip format so you will need to unZip it. Most new computers automatically do that for you. If you have any other questions let me know.
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Old 31st December 2005, 08:44 PM   #68 (permalink)
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Hello,

I would love a copy of the manual. Please send to GJMorrow@aol.com

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Old 1st January 2006, 01:27 AM   #69 (permalink)
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Would love a copy.
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Old 1st January 2006, 06:28 PM   #70 (permalink)
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Could you please send me a copy of your employee manual? I would love to look over it while I consider opening a tanning salon. Thanks so much!! DevonSpires@aol.com
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Old 1st January 2006, 06:41 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Old 2nd January 2006, 08:30 AM   #72 (permalink)
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When you get an opportunity, could you forward a copy? I'd like to compare to our current manual. Thanks!!!
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Old 2nd January 2006, 12:44 PM   #73 (permalink)
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I would like to have a copy of your employee handbook. Abkcbb@AOL.com

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Old 2nd January 2006, 05:08 PM   #74 (permalink)
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May I get my copy sent to bobbi_tanwithoutsand@sympatico.ca

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I would like a copy of your manual, my e-mail is tan2000@htc.net Thanks, Brenda
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Old 2nd January 2006, 07:13 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Hi,
I would love a copy of your Employee Manual,
My email is phillip@darkstar.net.au
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Old 4th January 2006, 05:29 PM   #77 (permalink)
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My manual sounds puny (at 8 pages) compared to yours. Please send me a copy, I would love to see what I have missed. Thanks yucantantoo@sbcglobal.net
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Old 4th January 2006, 08:08 PM   #78 (permalink)
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Also, despite the disclaimers at the end, the manual could fairly be read to guarantee that, after the probation period, the employee could only be terminated for cause. I assume that is not what you wanted to do.

I say once again: great work to put all of this together, but anyone who wants to create such a document MUST, MUST, MUST consult with a lawyer in their state.
I have a family member who is a Washinton D.C. Attorney and I never do anything without his consultation, so I asure you that my manual has been read for legal concerns.

You are correct that state employment laws are different from state to state and that in some states certain policies must be edited and adjusted for personal salon needs based on local state laws... that is why I am not copyrighting this manual and selling it to salon owners around the country... instead I am giving it freely with no copyright ... and full rights to edit and customize this manual to meet your salon's needs in your state.

It is advised to have your manual read by legal counsel before having the books binded for production and circulation for your own protection because your local state employment laws may be different than mine
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Old 4th January 2006, 08:19 PM   #79 (permalink)
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How about getting fired no reason at all?
well, in my state I can fire someone for no reason what-so-ever but that may not be true for all states. Ever state is differnt.
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Old 4th January 2006, 08:31 PM   #80 (permalink)
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Unless, of course, your ex-employee convinces a judge or a jury that your employment manual created rights for them that they didn't have under your state law. That is one of my concerns about any manual that even talks about things like "probationary" employees -- it implies you have some sort of job security once your probation period expires.
No offense Watergate... but TanToday is here to provide salon owners world wide with information that will help them in business. Employment laws are different not only from state to stae but in other countries as well. We are not here to create drama, debates, or paranoia. We have no legal issues here, disclaimers, or need for them. We are all educated adults who know we are each in our own way responsible for the way we conduct business. I understand your concerns because you used to work for a legal firm. However, there is no need to be paranoid. As I mentioned in my thread ... one of my family members is a US Attorney for a Washington D.C. firm and is my personal legal counsel. He has read and approved everything within my manual. My manual is NOT written by my attorney because I don't want my manual written in legal-ese. I want my manual easy to read by my employees. It is not written to intimidate them it is written to help the business run smoothly and for the employees to know what is expected of them. If they break a policy, I have their signature stating that they KNEW the policy and knew what they were doing.

Remember we are here to help each other
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