THERMOJET vs. FORMOSTAR (Infrared Body Wraps)

[Din]

I keep hearing about Formostar but have found that people are trading in their Formostars for Thermojet units because

• Thermojet has Dual Infrared which makes it stronger and is only a 30min session because it gives stronger results. This will give you more sessions per day. vs Formostar Single Infrared and 50min session.....(don't know much more or the diff)
• The Unit looks more professional with stand/wheels and has preset features as well as pad for the face to relieve acne and the double chin.....
• longer warranty
• it's cheaper to buy. approx $7000 vs $9000 formostar

Anyone have a Thermojet that can shed some light on this or anyone that has traded in their formostar for a thermojet?

I don't see as much publicity, marketing material, video demos and word of mouth as Formostar...but those that have had Formostar and have traded them in for a Thermojet say that the Thermojet is a much better unit.

Any comments or experiences on this?????

Here is their link for the North American Distributor......
http://www.thermojetplus.com/

[nebtans]

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[lewdyju]

Din- I am not sure which one I want to purchase either. I like the fact that Formostar is on the FDA list and if you type in Thermojet they are not but claim they are. Not sure what that means, I will just continue to research each product before I decide. I like the Thermojet unit and turn around time so much better than Formostar. Have you heard any pros and cons? Would love to hear about it.

[lvmyself]

I have a Thermojet and love it. I thought for awhile about what machine to get, it boiled down to what worked.

As for the FDA listing. There is a Rep. for Formostar that has been starting this rumor, infact my friend forward me a copy of a PM from another chat board. If you would check on the link provided by Din to the Thermojet Plus website you will see the listing for FDA. Click on "Common Misconceptions". There will be your answer.

I am glad that I deceided not to do business with Formostar it seems they don't know their facts.

[lewdyju]

I did read that after I posted. I am hoping to make a decision soon, this is something we will be introducing with our grand opening. About how many do you do on any given day. i know it will be different in every salon, just curious. I am also curious what you charge per session and package sessions. I see that they can range from $65-$100, single sessions seem to be $85 for the norm.

[sunetc]

For those that have Thermojet do you use any products to enhance the sessions, if so what do you use.

[EEM]

I have to make a comment on the comparison of the formostar and thermojet. I live in NY and I have been investigating for months on what to get for my business. I have to say that the thermo jet has nothing to back it up. There are no clinical studies, before and after pics...Formostar has been in the us for over 20 yrs and alot of people have them. As for the quicker time, infrared heat is a slower process. You do not want to heat the body up quickly like thermojet does. I have been told it is dangerous by a physician that has been helping me for my medi-spa. Formostar has the clinical data to show it is problem free. You are going on strictly what the sales reps are telling you at thermo jet. I am sorry but I think people should go on facts

[lvmyself]

Thanks for the words. I am glad of the purchase I have made with Thermojet and they have been wonderful to me.

[EEM]

I am sure they have- What kind of medical background do they have since there is no clinical data to back them up. Can they refer you to any studies done on the Thermo Jet. When I contacted them I got some comparison to tanning beds. Nothing in common. As for the gels, infrared heat heats you from the inside out so your body will absorb the chemicals. Do you realize how dangerous that is if someone has a reaction. I am glad you have great results, I was told by a physician to question them due to the effect of heating the body up so quick. He says there can be long term negative effects on your body. I questioned the formostar and they have data to show it does not. Mainly because their process heats the body up gradually. If you are in the medi-spa field like me I just want clinical data. Good luck

[lvmyself]

If you are in the Medi spa field you would know that weither its clay, seaweed or infrared everyone uses gels or creams. Are all those processes wrong except for Formostar? When I was looking to purchase the Formostar they offered me gels with my machine if I payed the higher sales price. Also, if you would look at the clinical study like I did before I purchased, you would see it was written 10+ years ago in Germany. It was also written for other infrared equipment . I did lots of homework on that study, and found even the Sauna booth Manufacturers use that clinical study.

[EEM]

The gel is an after product you do at home. They give you 6 bottles for free to retail. They do not even sell it. They refer you to this company to buy it. I already got a bottle. I ordered it to see for myself. It works awesome as an after product. It is not to be used in the machine. Only between wraps at home. It is for retail. The distributors name is Sharon Webb. The clay wraps and herbal ones do not absorb through infrared heat. As for the studies at least they have them. I am seriously not trying to start a fight, I did my own research and would rather work with formostar. To each his own. My friend in CA got me on this infrared kick. She has one in her salon. Did you know that the people at Sunpowersource are Formostar Directs son and daughter in law. Family issues are not good in business. My friend told me the story how they use to sell formostar and had to legally stop carrying it and they had to get something to replace it and there is the Thermo Jet. Jim that owns formostar is Shawn at sunpowersources father. I heard this through the leasing company dealing with my machine. The rep worked for both at one time. It is amazing what you find out when you ask enough questions

[Le]

EEM, raises good questions; like they said, no need to start a fight.

But... Lets have a good debate. (lvmyself makes good points as well)

I use FormoStar right now, but I am needing another device and the Thermojet creates a new choice for us.

I do not sell any gels or use them in the sessions and I have very satisfied clients.

What gels do you speak of?

[EEM]

Bioxira defining gel. All natural. Some people look for a retail product. The 6 pk of gel is 200$ and retail it for 60-70$ Just another way to make $. Infrared heat heats the body from the inside out. Gels and chemicals that thermo jet encourages with the use of the machine is absorbed into the body & goes much deeper than herbal wraps because it is heated. I do not want to risk any reaction. I also have been doing alot of research on infrared heat and burning calories. It is not meant to heat your body up quickly it is suppose to be a slow process to be safe. I refuse to put my name behind a service that MIGHT hurt someone long term. Formostar has been around for over 20 yrs. Over 30,000 world wide. I can find tons of info on the system. My main concern is the data. There are 2 great clinical studies on www.formostar.net. Do your own research and come to your own conclusion. I can get a new machine right now for 7995$ and have a yr warranty and free shipping. I am going through the lease process right now. The payment is only @ 250$/month. What really bugs me is the way thermo jet compares it to tanning. They sell tanning beds. Formostar sells only Formostar. I think the family feud is funny. The rep I have talked to at formostar is very informative and bases everything on facts. I am not a tanning salon and I have a physicians name on my business so I have to be picky. It has taken alot of time but my own research has taught me alot. I really do not want to offend anyone, I just hope they make safe decisions for their clients with backed up info not a sales pitch. By the way I was challenged for a debate!!!

[EEM]

http://www.salonequipmentintl.com/in...tar/formo2.pdf

This study was done on the effectiveness of FORMOSTAR. I dont care when it was done as long as it was done. Where is Thermo Jets

[EEM]

http://www.salonequipmentintl.com/in...ostar/info.pdf

Here's the other one that is 20pgs long and talks about radiant heat and FORMoSTAR. I am not a sells person I am a concerned spa owner that needs something to back up my claims.

[lvmyself]

To each his own. Thermojet doesn't even sell Gels they refer to a all natural line. My customers make a choice to use a gel or not. As for the family thing, who cares. You know there are always 2 sides to a story. With your number of post it seems like you are a sales rep.

[EEM]

Nope not a sales rep just a spa owner that felt mislead. Have a great day and good luck. I think everybody needs to choose what is right for their business. I just wanted people on this site to see the info I worked hard to collect and not listen to sales reps from either company and do their own research

[EEM]

I want to apologize for the abruptness in my replies- I am just tired of sales reps. I am sure both machines are great and have their own advantages. I hope everyone does great with whatever they have, I ust want to make $$$. The medical field is more particular than tanning about medical claims. Good Luck

[Alan @ TanToday]

I think there was some good information shared here about the Formostar.

[Din]

Thanks EEM for the legwork you put in to find this information ......