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Old 10th September 2009, 06:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am considering adding some spa services to my tanning salons. Is anyone having success with such services/products? Anything you would avoid?
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Old 10th September 2009, 06:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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We do very well with waxing. Some success with facials & massage. Formostar infrared body wrap is also doing well.
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Old 10th September 2009, 06:55 PM   #3 (permalink)
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We had massage when we first opened and I had the space. The issue I had was I found no one wanted to work as hard as I do and it reflected poorly on the company as a whole. Alot of that has to do with my area as well. I know Jeff on here has done very well with spa services
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I do well with Massage, but you are right that no one wants to work as hard as I do. I have 4 therapists that rotate between 2 rooms. Thinking of finding someone to do waxing (facial mainly) also to use the room when not being used.
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Old 10th September 2009, 07:01 PM   #5 (permalink)
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We offer an herbal body wrap that goes over pretty well here. The only thing you need to make sure to find out if you have to be certified or licensed for these services. In our area, you have to be a licensed Esthetician to perform any of these services now, but if you hold a certificate from before the license was required you may be able to get by with that for that specific service. That is how we are able to offer the body wraps.
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Old 15th September 2009, 05:10 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I started with the hydration station, then the lumiere light therapy, now I am getting my esthetician license so I can do waxing, facials, and body wraps. It gives me more avenues for sales with the same number of people walking in. I think it has helped in these slower JASON months.
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Old 18th October 2009, 02:49 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Is this a bed or is it like the Formostar Encore that is available? I was looking on their website as I am really interested in this. I have a lot of body wrap clients and tanning clients that I know would love this concept if it actually works. What are your results/successes with this? Can anyone do it or do they have to be an Esthetician to perform these also? I have actually contacted the state health department and they couldn't tell me if I would need a license or not. They suggested that I contact somebody at a massage school or even someone at a cosmetology school. Too bad the state can't figure it out since they are the ones that would impose the fine if a person was doing something they weren't supposed to be doing. Let me know on this, also would want to know if would be a better choice to get the single or the dual? Right now, with the herbal body wraps I can do 2 back to back, then I have to wash the wraps and soak them again so have to take an hour and a half off.
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We have the original Formostar with the rubber pads. We like it quite a lot. We have some very good ongoing wrap customers. All I need between customers is about 5 minutes to wipe down the pads and change out the towels and I'm ready to go again. We use those extra large bath towels under and over the client. We have a facial/massage bed that we use for them to lie on. We have a flat screen TV on the wall and a DVD player with a selection of movies or they can bring their own to watch. It helps keep the mind off the intense heat.

Most customers notice a difference in inches as well as quite a few health benefits. I have one long term customer that comes in weekly. She has terrible allergies and says as long as she wraps at least weekly she doesn't have to take any medications. Others come in for pain relief; back, knees, etc. Others for weight.

We've had ours for 3 years now and love it. The extra income is very nice. If I remember correctly it took about 6 months to pay for itself. We paid $8900 but I think they are a bit more now. Let me know if you have more questions.
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As far as being licensed it is going to depend on your state. We have little to no regulation in Michigan for stuff like this so we're good. I would say if you called your state and they don't know then you probably don't have to be.
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Old 18th October 2009, 08:19 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I'm just wondering if it would be worth it to buy the dual or not though. I have a lot of my body wrap clients that actually come in pairs. With those I measure and wrap the first one and then take them into the relaxation room. While they are relaxing I am measuring and wraping the 2nd one. By the time the 2nd person goes into the relaxation room, the 1st one has about 10 - 15 minutes left before I take them out to unwrap and remeasure. Once done with this person the 2nd person only has about 10-15 minutes left also. It takes a 1 1/2 hr process each client down to 2 hours for both to be completed and ready to walk out the door.
I do wedding parties too, and that makes it more difficult because I have to schedule an hour in there to get the wraps washed and rolled again to sit in the solution.
I know that when I spoke with the health department they told me that if it manipulates the skin, then I have to be certified and licensed. I can do the herbal body wraps because I am not manipulating the skin, but I can't give them a foot rub during the process cause I am not a masseuse. I think that this may fall into the same type of category here cause I am only applying something that sits on top of the client, not manipulating anything into the skin.
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Sounds like you need the dual. With the Formostar you are not touching the skin at all. I have my clients wear thick cotton sweats to wrap in so at the most I touch their clothing.
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Old 19th October 2009, 02:31 PM   #12 (permalink)
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i have a formostar for sale...not a dual though...downsizing my salon
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Old 19th October 2009, 10:11 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Eyecandy,
I am in the investigating phase of this still, but what are you asking for your unit? If the price is right a single will probably work well until I start to get a bunch of people wanting to make appointments at the same time and then it would be time to invest again. Also, how old is it and what is the condition of it?
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Old 20th October 2009, 02:50 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Eyecandy,
We are also looking to add formoster in our salon. Can you please let us know the price and no of years you have used.
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Old 20th October 2009, 03:14 PM   #16 (permalink)
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We have success with offering massage services
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Old 20th October 2009, 03:42 PM   #17 (permalink)
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We are also looking to add formoster in our salon. Can you please let us know the price and no of years you have used.
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Old 16th November 2009, 12:34 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Our salon is setup as pretty much a one stop shop.
we offer facials, wraps, waxing, hair, nails, pedi's ,tooth whitening,
and a fashion boutique. That is in addition to 13 tanning units.
including a rejuvination unit, that has done much better being pushed on the spa side.

It is nice to offset income durring slow months , and gives a market for nearly anyone that walk in..don't tan how bout a facial, plus it gives word of mouth advertising to all the spa clients that we offer tanning.

the bad part is managing a group of stylists , and other techs is like raising kids...never ending drama wineing, excuses, late no shows etc...just like any
place. there is also an extra bit of cleaning that is involved.

but we are the only game intown with that much under one roof.
there are a few serious tan only salons , and a handfull of cheapy hair nail salons with 1~3 beds , and one other real spa that has base beds.
my biggest gripe now will soon be parking.
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Old 17th November 2009, 01:53 PM   #19 (permalink)
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WE have a foot detoxer (IonSpa). It's fine. THInking of adding another one. Any companies you can recommend?
We also have a massage therapist and combine it with our LED Teeth Whitening (XpresSmile) It makes it more spa-like and differentiates us.

We were thinking about the body wraps but it seems too time consuming. We have a nutritionist come in and give seminars and we may start charging for these in the future. THe nutrionist gives a % of an business she gets from us.
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body wraps take about 5-8 min to wrap and unwrap...not time consuming at all
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