Ergoline, please answer this

[Drew]

Why does a Classic 600 Turbo or a 650 Hybrid from 9 years ago put out over 135 mw2's ON THE BODY or Face with the 500w plug ins and 2.3 VIT glass?

but your new beds like the 1050 or the Shark or the 850 only put out 80 with new lamps?

WTF..why?

[uv2021]

They joined the Heareaus school of output.

[John]

They do have a new Reflector design in some of the newer models. I think those are the Affinity line that is different.

[solarmeter®]

I keep reading that the 600/650's were very good back then.

So Drew why did you used to bash Ergo so much even back then?

Thierry - Croc ?

Kinda like it took GM 41 years to create a 2010 Camaro faster than a 1969 Camaro...

When will Ergo come out with something stronger than the 600 series?

[northtanman]

hmmm, is this why i thought my 2004 ergo 650 was better than a new 1050 i tried?

[solarmeter®]

There has never been an Ergoline spokesman(woman) answering such questions in the history of online tanning blogs.... has there?

So go punt.... hup two three four ... boop!

Is Jerry Devaney back there now? He has ventured online every so often. He has a 5.0 meter for umbrella UV transmission or something like that...

[Beat]

Drew,

you are right, the last reflectors/filters sets seems weak.

Could be that, using darker filterglass, less light pass thru.

[Din]

Now you know why i keep saying that the Ergo 650 is my favourite bed of all time. And that in TanCun Convention i used it 3 times and i was BLACK.

It's the only bed that has ever put color like that on me....EVER.

[Renaissance]

The glass Ergoline is using now has about three times the UVB transmission being let through, more UVA, and the older 2.3 V.I.T. glass is still preferred.

I think the two are letting different spike ranges of the UV Spectrum through.. basically more "tanning efficient" wavelengths.

I think that the older V.I.T. glass doesn't handle age too well... I've noticed with every lamp change I make...the TE Time goes up...

The newer glass is probably a little more stable. Kind of what like ISO is doing with it's newer green glass. Supposedly every sheet is the exact same and and does not solarize.

I am also aware that the reason ISO is going to the newer glass also has something to do with the price of getting the same glass has either sky rocketed or their now previous supplier has shut down operations.

I still think the next bed Ergo presents to their line up should be a redesigned Classic...

[BIG AL]

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Kinda like it took GM 41 years to create a 2010 Camaro faster than a 1969 Camaro...
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Good story but not really true. The 69 Z28 timed in the quarter mile were in the 14.3 range and around a 100 mph. Very fast for it's time but there are 4 cylinders that can do that today.

My son has a 02 WS6 Trans Am that I bought for him brand new. Stock it was in the low 13's and 108 mph. With a little bit of parts and some computer work, it now runs in the 12.4 range. The good part is that it gets 25 mpg on the highway. It is not even the fastest car in my garage, the 03 Cobra is.

I had a 69 Z28 motor in a English Ford Thames panel wagon. It had a tunnel ram with a 750 holley. It weighed 1700 pounds and would pull the front wheels off the ground with a reworked turbo 400 auto.

[solarmeter®]

4 cylinders that can do that today

Yeah my Mini Cooper S is one of them...

Maybe some TransAms were a bit faster than the 69 Camaro... but most if not all stock Camaros were not until 2010.

My old '76 Chevy Monza Town Coupe (a Vega platform) with a transplanted 350 LT1 was the fastest toy I ever owned. Only weighed about 2000 lbs.

[Drew]

Transmissions have changed too. Lower geared first thru 3rd and adding 2 extra on top.

Anyway...Stevo..I bashed the beds FLORESCENT output, not the facials. The Beds would put out 42 with brand new Cosmo VHR's and with the original Phillps lamps they put out low 30's. It was a mess.

Only the NEW ERA lamps got the UVA up in these beds and the NEW ERA lamps like Supra with more B made these beds tan like a NORMAL vhr bed.

As to the person whose TE time as consistantly gone up...this is true with ALL HP glass. There is a big initial Solarization period. And then a very slow gradual solarization dropping uvb output.

My 2.3 vit with over 5000 hours still has great uva transmission and the uvb is about HALF of the tubes which is what it is supposed to be.

The whole pupose of HP Facials was that the Face is more sensitive and needs less uvb...and the face is what you see when you look at people so more browning is what people wanted since you don't go to work in a bikini "usually".

High uvb hp facials is stupid. Even on HP beds that I reglassed for "a little" more uvb..I kept the lower b glass on the face.

[Drew]

Yea, my Pinto with a Viper engine really hauls ass with its Doug Nash 5 speed and positraction diferential and pizza cutters up front.

[kpowr82]

Originally Posted by solarmeter®

Yeah my Mini Cooper S is one of them...

Maybe some TransAms were a bit faster than the 69 Camaro... but most if not all stock Camaros were not until 2010.

My old '76 Chevy Monza Town Coupe (a Vega platform) with a transplanted 350 LT1 was the fastest toy I ever owned. Only weighed about 2000 lbs.

Eh, had a '99 Z28 bone stock run 13.5s in the 1/4 at Lapeer. '02 SS with some SLP factory upgrades hit 12.9 in the 1/4 at Lapeer as well.

If you've ever been to Lapeer, you know I probably could have done better at Ubley. Regardless, the '02 SS/WS6 were still the fastest f-bods to the 1/4 mile EVER. Even the new 2010 Camaro, depending on the rag and user comments on most forums, will do the 1/4 in 12.9-13.5

Sorry to hijack

[Drew]

A supercharged hemi in a Pacer was once mistaken as a UFO in New Mexico.

[BIG AL]

The very fastest 4 wheel vehicle that I have ever driven was not a car. It was my son's racing shifter kart. My son raced for 8 years. He also raced Pro Challenge trucks. At the time the fastest American car 0-60 was the Viper at 4 seconds. My son's kart could do it in 3.6 seconds. If you were on longer tracks by changing out the gears and the axel, it could reach 115 mph. He raced with guys like A.J. Foyt IV, Scot Speed, Almendinger, and Rahal.

We were at at the Super Nationals race in Las Vegas and they had set up a 7/10 mile course up in the Rio Casino parking lot. It was practice time and I was at the fence timing my son and someone walked up and started timing his. After my son came in, I turned and looked who was standing next to me, it was Bobby Rahal, timing his son Graham, who is now racing Indy cars. We used to see A.J. Foyt II at our races at the time. He would come and watch his Grandson the IV all the time. It used to make my son mad every time he saw A.J. IV running Indy cars when 75% of the time they raced against each other and my son beat him.

I am not sorry I hijacked this thread.