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Cove · 9th January 2005, 03:19 PM

Salon about an hour drive away from me has one, my very fair girlfriend is using it ( she lives in that town), She had to start out at 5 minutes, because she kept burning. she got up to 9 minutes and realy burned. I saw her the day after and she was burned. I am familiar with with the uvb% output of the Magic 636 and the King as I'm looking to purchase one, I am fair as well and never burned In James Magic the full 12 min session, Whats the UvB output of the Saturn?

Mr.Nice Guy · 9th January 2005, 04:28 PM

What part of her body got burned? If you say her face let her know that the 1000 watt facial lamp you can adjust.

Also what voltage do they have it running at and what year is the Saturn?

Cove · 9th January 2005, 05:42 PM

All over body was burned, and the salon just opened August. I'm sure the saturn is brand new but can't be certain as far as voltage, not sure.

Natureboy · 9th January 2005, 05:53 PM

If I remember correctly, the Saturn facials have a 1.5. or better % UVB. I could see her burning her face.

I am sure someone from Miracle Sun here could clear that up, I don't know if that is right for sure.

Jim Fisher · 9th January 2005, 06:05 PM

If the unit is new I would suggest for the first 50 hours to tan people not at full session. This cures the glass so to speak. After the first 50 hours you can people at regular times. Burnt. Are you sure it isnt IR heat rash or is it a full out skin pealing look?

When I first went into my Saturn, I went for 10 mins and I got what I refer to IR heat rash. Which makes the skin look red but no skin UV B damage pealing.

I put some Cal Tan Insurance on it and it took the heat away and the next day I was fine and had a tan for like 5 days.

Cove · 9th January 2005, 06:27 PM

could possilby be heat rash. It looked red like a burn and she said her skin felt tight, like a burn, I only saw if for a few seconds down the side of her arm to armpit. I saw her the day after her session. She did however use a tingle lotion that day but she said she started her first session at 5 minutes and has worked her way up to 9 minutes over 5 sessions. She did not use a tingle lotion before and said she would still burn. Even her Hubby is burning and he is skin type 3.

Jim Fisher · 9th January 2005, 09:13 PM

Yea

That isnt a UVB burn , it is a heat rash type of feeling. Thats what I thought. I will have someone from Miracle Sun tech come on and explain. This kind of rash is common in most High Presssure units. Most HP beds will give you that heat rash near the mid section of the body

Natureboy · 10th January 2005, 03:05 PM

I wouldn't reduce sesson times. Just turn the bed down somewhat so the output is where you want it on the meter until the glass "breaks in". Then turn it up a bit more. That is the way I do it.

Magic, Saturn's and so on are like Ferrari's. You gotta tune them if you want peak performance.

-James

Whitetail · 10th January 2005, 10:35 PM

Stupid question for you but is the filter glass installed and working properly? I have a Saturn and have never, I mean NEVER burned anyone.

Jim Fisher · 11th January 2005, 05:59 AM

What year Saturn do you have?

Mine is a 2004

Natureboy · 11th January 2005, 05:22 PM

If you put in a skin type I full session first time, I guarantee they would burn.

9th January 2005, 03:19 PM	#1 (permalink)
Cove Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 272	Saturn Question Salon about an hour drive away from me has one, my very fair girlfriend is using it ( she lives in that town), She had to start out at 5 minutes, because she kept burning. she got up to 9 minutes and realy burned. I saw her the day after and she was burned. I am familiar with with the uvb% output of the Magic 636 and the King as I'm looking to purchase one, I am fair as well and never burned In James Magic the full 12 min session, Whats the UvB output of the Saturn?

9th January 2005, 05:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
Natureboy Moderator Security Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada, just north of 50 Posts: 2,902	If I remember correctly, the Saturn facials have a 1.5. or better % UVB. I could see her burning her face. I am sure someone from Miracle Sun here could clear that up, I don't know if that is right for sure. __________________ Original Tantoday Class of 2000! Tellin' it like it is. www.millenniumtan.com

10th January 2005, 03:05 PM	#8 (permalink)
Natureboy Moderator Security Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada, just north of 50 Posts: 2,902	I wouldn't reduce sesson times. Just turn the bed down somewhat so the output is where you want it on the meter until the glass "breaks in". Then turn it up a bit more. That is the way I do it. Magic, Saturn's and so on are like Ferrari's. You gotta tune them if you want peak performance. -James __________________ Original Tantoday Class of 2000! Tellin' it like it is. www.millenniumtan.com

10th January 2005, 10:35 PM	#9 (permalink)
Whitetail Rookie Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 33	OK A Mr. Obvious Question for You Stupid question for you but is the filter glass installed and working properly? I have a Saturn and have never, I mean NEVER burned anyone.

11th January 2005, 05:22 PM	#11 (permalink)
Natureboy Moderator Security Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada, just north of 50 Posts: 2,902	If you put in a skin type I full session first time, I guarantee they would burn. __________________ Original Tantoday Class of 2000! Tellin' it like it is. www.millenniumtan.com

9th January 2005, 04:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mr.Nice Guy Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 494	What part of her body got burned? If you say her face let her know that the 1000 watt facial lamp you can adjust. Also what voltage do they have it running at and what year is the Saturn?

9th January 2005, 05:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
Cove Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 272	All over body was burned, and the salon just opened August. I'm sure the saturn is brand new but can't be certain as far as voltage, not sure.

9th January 2005, 06:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jim Fisher Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 3,497	If the unit is new I would suggest for the first 50 hours to tan people not at full session. This cures the glass so to speak. After the first 50 hours you can people at regular times. Burnt. Are you sure it isnt IR heat rash or is it a full out skin pealing look? When I first went into my Saturn, I went for 10 mins and I got what I refer to IR heat rash. Which makes the skin look red but no skin UV B damage pealing. I put some Cal Tan Insurance on it and it took the heat away and the next day I was fine and had a tan for like 5 days.

9th January 2005, 06:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
Cove Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 272	could possilby be heat rash. It looked red like a burn and she said her skin felt tight, like a burn, I only saw if for a few seconds down the side of her arm to armpit. I saw her the day after her session. She did however use a tingle lotion that day but she said she started her first session at 5 minutes and has worked her way up to 9 minutes over 5 sessions. She did not use a tingle lotion before and said she would still burn. Even her Hubby is burning and he is skin type 3.

9th January 2005, 09:13 PM	#7 (permalink)
Jim Fisher Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 3,497	Yea That isnt a UVB burn , it is a heat rash type of feeling. Thats what I thought. I will have someone from Miracle Sun tech come on and explain. This kind of rash is common in most High Presssure units. Most HP beds will give you that heat rash near the mid section of the body

11th January 2005, 05:59 AM	#10 (permalink)
Jim Fisher Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 3,497	What year Saturn do you have? Mine is a 2004

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