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11th June 2005, 04:16 AM
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| All Star  Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Milan, Italy
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 |  The trick here is the glass reflectors and plug-ins lamps. Look what a 500watt lamp with glass reflector can do!   With this kind of units you can have have the TANNING POWER and SAVE electricity. Vito |
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| 13th June 2005, 08:37 PM | #25 (permalink) |
| Super Star Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Washington D.C. Posts: 828 |  I will call my contact at Am-cam (Royal-Sun) tomorrow and ask what the replacement cost will be for the lamps and post. The literature that I rec'd today also says that the mechanism is all ball bearing movement and relamping is just clip and plug. This particular unit will be avail to tan on in Vegas. I cannot make it, for I will be in Europe at that particular time. If someone from here does go let me know how this tans.. I am really curious. |
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| 14th June 2005, 11:21 AM | #26 (permalink) |
| Super Star Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Washington D.C. Posts: 828 | UPDATE: Royal Sun UVSCANr It is about a 5K replacment at @1000 hours, they also recommend that the acrylics be repalced at the same time at @20-25 each and there are 7 of them. They are experimenting with glass on the bottom ones vs. the acrylics but the one in Las Vegas will have the acrylic. They are also toying with the tan time from 8 min (currently) to a possible 10 min. |
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| 17th June 2005, 11:33 PM | #31 (permalink) |
| Arbiter Elegantiarum  Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Virtual Reality Posts: 3,969 | the quick math.... 1000 hours works out to 7500 sessions at 8 minutes per. (8570 sessions at a more realistic 7 minute average for an 8 minute max.) 7500 sessions at $30 average = $225,000. ok... at only a $25 average = $187,500. Still not bad. I'd be happy to change the lamps. The first 165-200 sessions of the run pays for the $5000 lamp change. __________________ si vis pacem, para bellum "The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing." -Frank Zappa. "I inhaled frequently. That was the point." - Barack Obama. "Even if we win, we will have just eked out a victory, and we can't govern." - Barack Obama.   sui generis |
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| 19th June 2005, 03:28 PM | #33 (permalink) |
| Hall of Famer  Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Neverland Posts: 1,882 | Are you selling beds yet ??? starting to sound like an equipment vendor, using single session pricing to equate out TONS of profit on a bed with only one lamp chgange. Lets take your $25 SINGLE session, not average, price into consideration. do you ONLY sell singles ??? NO! Buy one get one free ?? $12.50 per session. 5 for $99, $20 per session. Do you run EFT programs ??? Do members get discounts ??? more than likely 50% off single session rates ??? Back to $12.50 per session. Do those same members get discounts off packages ??? Same 5 for $99.......... double the value OR cut the cost in half, = $10 per session. next item 1000 hours out of lamp life???? possible. Heard that from HO and VHR lamp makers for years. Doesn't Happen Base bed HO lamps are typically out at 600-750 hours MAX. VHR's run 400-500 hours before replacement. Plug-in HP lamps are typically running 300-400 max before replacement. even on the older wire lead HP, 800 hours is pushing it for many, depending on the bed I've gotten as little as 400-500+ UNLESS you've got adjustable transformers, taps, etc to manipulate the output at the end of lamp life. Lastly session time. 8 minutes ??? probably not. QDM tried that with VHO-R lamps a few years ago, and most salons ended up running that bed at 10 min for premium performance HP is even more of an issue in session time. Last I heard, they were talking about making a 10 min time recap 1000 hours optimum probably = 600-750 hours of useful output. 10 min sessions, and with HP you will get more full sessions rather than less average income per session cut in half from 'projected' more math to come, gotta go spend Fathers Day |
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| 20th June 2005, 10:52 AM | #35 (permalink) |
| Hall of Famer  Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cleveland Posts: 1,461 | The ITS unit looks pretty sharp, but in my opinion, far from done! They used the shell of the Sunless unit, which is very sharp looking. There is no way it could pass ETL or UL as it is currently made. The Varius Units are fully exposed & the filter glass temp may reach 350°, if they are exposed then people can touch the glass! They will need to wrap the Varius with an acrylic. Also wires are exposed which will also not pass. This unit has really great potential and look for it to be a competitor in the near future! __________________  |
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| 21st June 2005, 04:10 PM | #38 (permalink) |
| Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cleveland Posts: 1,461 |  This is in my warehouse 225 Volts, 180 W Choke Ballast, Meter Readings at about 8" away 5.0 = 110 (Highest reading was about 133, but I'm frickin blind now from trying to hold the meter & read it, I just had the clear UV goggles on) 6.0 = 2.03 7.0 = 33-35 UVB% 1.5 - 1.8% TE = About 7 minutes  Once someone properly uses these Varius Units, they will be the Future of HP. 180 Watts & they read 110 Easy! This is NO BS, if anyone wants to test it come to my shop & plug it in & read it yourself. __________________ |
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| 21st June 2005, 04:44 PM | #39 (permalink) |
| UV Geek Squad  Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Lake St Clair Posts: 3,210 | John, I want to buy one of those now. Call me for a credit card number. But I need a conversion power supply back to 110V wall plug too. Will mount it horizontal and wear my blueblocker polaroids to set HP meters. Steve |
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