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Cove · 15th June 2005, 09:27 PM

So I found a disty in Canada that sells the aclaim. I emailed them to ask how much uvb the unit emits. this is his reply:

Hi Tammy . . it's my understanding that there isn't any . .that's the whole concept of high pressure HP (no possible surface damage)

Can someone tell me how much UVB there is?

Natureboy · 15th June 2005, 09:46 PM

What an embarrasment the HP industry can be in Canada.

Is it a Heatland bed? Who is the distributor?

Cove · 15th June 2005, 10:17 PM

yes it is a Heartland Bed.

the dist. is Elan in Vancouver.

Father Tan · 15th June 2005, 11:27 PM

Scary & sad!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jim Fisher · 16th June 2005, 09:54 AM

Call Heartland themselves at 1-800-308-2455

sparky · 16th June 2005, 06:48 PM

Stupid is as Stupid Does !!!

All the more reason to keep the bed costs HIGH on this equipment, keeps the lemmings out of touch.

sunsally · 17th June 2005, 08:29 AM

When I was in Orlando and it was being unveiled, I asked this same question and the sales guy there told me "It's not a "burning bed" like the Matrix" (which is more funny, given that they completely copied the Matrix look!). With that level of ignorance when talking to potential customers about HP, I decided I probably wasn't interested. Too bad - I generally think Heartland is one of the good ones, but not thrilled how they are approaching this bed.Assume it is a traditional low uvb, not aggressive HP.

Island Cove · 20th June 2005, 01:04 PM

Well we are in Kansas City Missouri right now, so we are going to go directly to heartland to see the beds ourselves. We'll see what kind of educational response we get there.

solarmeter® · 20th June 2005, 03:04 PM

Just take a 6.0 UVB meter and find out for yourself!

John · 20th June 2005, 04:54 PM

It is relatively low UVB about .8 or .9% , nothing like the new stuff putting out 1.5 or 1.8%

The Acclaim will provide a more traditional HP type tan, very little chance of burning, lots of brown!

Island Cove · 21st June 2005, 12:20 PM

ah solormeter, my meter arrived at my salon in Canada while I've been here.

Island Cove · 22nd June 2005, 01:00 PM

Well the sales lady there at hearland wasn't sure either. She said very low, not more than 5%. I find that hard to beleive. I am also instantly turned off when they bash other beds. She asked if we've been looking at other new HP units, and we said yes, at the Magic 636 and the King. she says oh well this will tan better than those. How does she know that?

John · 22nd June 2005, 01:19 PM

Could you imagine an HP unit with about 5% UVB.

You would simply get MURDERED!

Don't you love educated sales people!

sparky · 22nd June 2005, 01:44 PM

5% UVB

Wasn't that some of the original Black Sun readings ???

6 minute Vertical HP, initial session time 45 seconds

John · 22nd June 2005, 02:21 PM

flash tan!

uv2021 · 22nd June 2005, 09:34 PM

Just another fine example as to why you should buy HP only from people who know and understand this style of equipment.Choosing the right bed is only part of the equation.You have electrical,venting,marketing,staff training and a plan B in case all of the above fails.And then even if you get all of the above correct.... what if your market changes and you have to make adjustments to the plan? Everyone that sells beds is pretty well now selling HP.Just like everyone is selling sunless units.

Island Cove · 22nd June 2005, 09:46 PM

Pardon Me!! I ment to say .5%UVB. SO sorry everyone!

sparky · 22nd June 2005, 09:51 PM

sounds like a good old fashioned VHR-style bed to me

UVA at 63 and UVB around 3.0 = 5%

63-3=60

3/60 *100 = 5%

15th June 2005, 09:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
Cove Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 272	No Uvb in HP So I found a disty in Canada that sells the aclaim. I emailed them to ask how much uvb the unit emits. this is his reply: Hi Tammy . . it's my understanding that there isn't any . .that's the whole concept of high pressure HP (no possible surface damage) Can someone tell me how much UVB there is?

15th June 2005, 09:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
Natureboy Moderator Security Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada, just north of 50 Posts: 2,931	What an embarrasment the HP industry can be in Canada. Is it a Heatland bed? Who is the distributor? __________________ Original Tantoday Class of 2000! Tellin' it like it is. www.millenniumtan.com

20th June 2005, 04:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
John Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cleveland Posts: 1,614	It is relatively low UVB about .8 or .9% , nothing like the new stuff putting out 1.5 or 1.8% The Acclaim will provide a more traditional HP type tan, very little chance of burning, lots of brown! __________________

22nd June 2005, 01:19 PM	#13 (permalink)
John Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cleveland Posts: 1,614	Could you imagine an HP unit with about 5% UVB. You would simply get MURDERED! Don't you love educated sales people! __________________

22nd June 2005, 01:44 PM	#14 (permalink)
sparky Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Neverland Posts: 1,944	5% UVB Wasn't that some of the original Black Sun readings ??? 6 minute Vertical HP, initial session time 45 seconds __________________ ......................Flashback 2001........................ "One of the 'ORIGINAL' TanToday Gang" Life is like a sled dog team...if you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.

15th June 2005, 10:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
Cove Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 272	yes it is a Heartland Bed. the dist. is Elan in Vancouver.

15th June 2005, 11:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
Father Tan Rookie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 47	Scary & sad!!!!!!!!!!!!!

16th June 2005, 09:54 AM	#5 (permalink)
Jim Fisher Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 3,506	Call Heartland themselves at 1-800-308-2455

16th June 2005, 06:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
sparky Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Neverland Posts: 1,944	Stupid is as Stupid Does !!! All the more reason to keep the bed costs HIGH on this equipment, keeps the lemmings out of touch.

17th June 2005, 08:29 AM	#7 (permalink)
sunsally Leasing VP Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,926	When I was in Orlando and it was being unveiled, I asked this same question and the sales guy there told me "It's not a "burning bed" like the Matrix" (which is more funny, given that they completely copied the Matrix look!). With that level of ignorance when talking to potential customers about HP, I decided I probably wasn't interested. Too bad - I generally think Heartland is one of the good ones, but not thrilled how they are approaching this bed.Assume it is a traditional low uvb, not aggressive HP.

20th June 2005, 01:04 PM	#8 (permalink)
Island Cove The Good, The Bad, The Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,187	Well we are in Kansas City Missouri right now, so we are going to go directly to heartland to see the beds ourselves. We'll see what kind of educational response we get there.

20th June 2005, 03:04 PM	#9 (permalink)
solarmeter® UV Geek Squad Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Lake St Clair Posts: 3,327	Just take a 6.0 UVB meter and find out for yourself!

21st June 2005, 12:20 PM	#11 (permalink)
Island Cove The Good, The Bad, The Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,187	ah solormeter, my meter arrived at my salon in Canada while I've been here.

22nd June 2005, 01:00 PM	#12 (permalink)
Island Cove The Good, The Bad, The Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,187	Well the sales lady there at hearland wasn't sure either. She said very low, not more than 5%. I find that hard to beleive. I am also instantly turned off when they bash other beds. She asked if we've been looking at other new HP units, and we said yes, at the Magic 636 and the King. she says oh well this will tan better than those. How does she know that?

22nd June 2005, 02:21 PM	#15 (permalink)
John Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cleveland Posts: 1,614	flash tan! __________________

22nd June 2005, 09:34 PM	#16 (permalink)
uv2021 Super Star Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 548	Just another fine example as to why you should buy HP only from people who know and understand this style of equipment.Choosing the right bed is only part of the equation.You have electrical,venting,marketing,staff training and a plan B in case all of the above fails.And then even if you get all of the above correct.... what if your market changes and you have to make adjustments to the plan? Everyone that sells beds is pretty well now selling HP.Just like everyone is selling sunless units.

22nd June 2005, 09:46 PM	#17 (permalink)
Island Cove The Good, The Bad, The Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,187	Pardon Me!! I ment to say .5%UVB. SO sorry everyone!

22nd June 2005, 09:51 PM	#18 (permalink)
sparky Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Neverland Posts: 1,944	sounds like a good old fashioned VHR-style bed to me UVA at 63 and UVB around 3.0 = 5% 63-3=60 3/60 100 = 5% __________________ ......................Flashback 2001........................* "One of the 'ORIGINAL' TanToday Gang" Life is like a sled dog team...if you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.

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