The Future Of High Pressure (Heraeus Varius)

[John]

This is Run at 225 Volts
180W May + Christe Choke Ballast
70-400W Ignitor

Reading are about 8" away.

• Meter 5.0 = 110 - 133
• Meter 6.0 = 2.03
• Meter 7.0 = 35
• UVB% = 1.5% - 1.8%
• TE = 7 minutes

The unit is currently being used in a few prototypes & some are already at market. Once someone finds the right application for this & really knows how to work with HP, this will be the lamp to have in your unit!

[dcjjp2]

Makes me want to hold off for a bit buying HP....Royal Sun is the only one with this technology on the market as of now isn't it? And from what everyone said, it wasn't anything special.

Any others entering this arena soon? (aside from ITS)

[Ezliving_Jim]

John, what filter glass did you use in the test?

[John]

Jim,

The Varius uses a Glass Reflector with a built in mirrored filter.

Not too sure on the specs of the filter glass itself, but it is pretty potent.

The Varius is being used by UWE in the new P90 as the shoulder tanners, which is a great application.

Alphasun currently has them in use as facials in 1 or 2 model units.

Royal Sun & ITS are currently in the prototype phase with units.

The lamp can handle up to 250 Watts, but as you can see a 180W choke ballast is pretty effective & gives results that a 500W -600W HP lamp would be jealous of!

We tried running it at 120W, but it wasn't very effective, at 160W it is OK & at 250W we felt it ran too hot & would diminish the lamp life. I feel that 180W-190W or 200W choke ballast is sufficient.

[imported_Peter]

Damn, this crap just keeps advancing. HP keeps going to new levels and heights. Cant wait to see how well this kind of unit tans after all the bugs are worked out. It could be a couple years to get this right in a 360HP unit. The great thing is many of the HEAT problems/hot spots of the past associated with HP will not be as much of a challenge.

This is cutting edge stuff.

[dcjjp2]

I might just put the stops on ordering my HP for the Fall if, this is the new wave of HP beds. I am in no hurry to add it yet... I want the new cutting edge stuff..

[John]

The Future looks bright, but not sure how far some one is off on perfecting the application of these.

HP is very hard to master & there are alot of great machines available now on the market.

I am very impressed with the Magic 636, its adjustable lamp capabilities, comfort of session, lamp life, ROI & raw tanning power!
(I have never sold a Magic unit ever- this is not spam)

As Far as 360° HP units go the Magic, Matrix & Entropy are tops for tanning results.

For Matress Hp the UWE P90 has to be considered, serius power, unique look, & quality UWE manufacturing. Sunsport Platinum is also a sweet machine.

For Stand Up HP take a look at the Sportarredo HPO, quite a surprise & the Saturn will also paint some color on you!

Combi's I am not fully sold on, can't get over the VHOR type lamp in bench -get your butt red & the HP lamps on top giving a nice bronze! The first 100 hrs on the bench lamps are brutal then they usually level out & give nice results with the HP top. IF someone could make a clear matress that UV could pass through & still give comfort then you have something.

[solarmeter®]

John,

I'm looking for a power supply 220>110V wall plug. Will advise when I want to have you send me a table-top version of this lamp. Do I need to specify 180W or will any kind be OK?

Steve

[Beat]

I don't believe smaller reflectors are the best solution for the future of the HP. They are just easier to handle for the manufacturers and great as shoulder tanner.

For other application "regular" rounded glass reflectors driven by 400/500 watt lamps. These reflectors are similar to the alluminium one, but able to reflect more than 100% plus of the oldest one. Is more difficult for a manufacturer to handle the cooling aspect of this lamps (see 1000 watt lamps 500 watt driven on entropy bed), but this is the best you can have on a HP unit.

Another advantage is the lamp change cost. The rounded "classic" reflector you pay just 19 $ (approx) plug in lamp.

See a 500 watt driven lamps what can do (A+B reading at 20 cm):

[Jim Fisher]

Can they not make a reflector HP lamp like VHR

[Brian Oshman]

Looks like Vito needs the model 5.0 HP since those readings are over 200 mw/cm².

Steve,

Order this one from Grainger and add cords to it. Item # 1H723. Wire the secondary to 120 volts and the primary to 240 volts and feed the secondary with 120 volts. It will give you enough power to run up to a 2000 watt lamp.

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/pro...603351&ccitem=

[solarmeter®]

Thanks Brian.

Good grief it weighs 50 lbs! Maybe I should just use my clothes dryer 220V wall plug.

Where can one buy the above ballast and ignitor to run this silly single lamp? All I want is something putting out >100 mW/cm² total UV so I can set 5.0 HP meters to all read the same at high intensities. Thought this would be easy but it ain't (for me anyway).

I have a Sperti HP face lamp that runs on 110V, buts it's all UVB and very little UVA. Not even as strong as my 2 fluorescent tubes for UVA.

Beat.... go get those two 5.0HP meters you had me send to Sam for you! They're already paid for - as you know.

[sparky]

was my thought but just didn't have time to do the search

that lamp only needs 180w ballast, could run on a .25 Kva, but i've linked the next size up, a .5 Kva

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/sea...ults.jsp?xi=xi

16# and $114 plus shipping.

see if there's a local electrical supply, you might do a better price.

John should have the ballast and igniter in stock.

dryer plug is a good option, probably get away with $50-60 in parts with a plug and cordset. Only thing is you'll be running @ 30 Amp breaker, so really should have an in-line fuse to protect the equipment, if not also the operator.

[Brian Oshman]

Yeah, A smaller transformer would be fine. I figured in more headroom if he wants to experiment with higher wattage or multiple lamps at the same time.

Overkill is allways good.

[Jim Fisher]

John

Any updates

[engfant]

Originally Posted by dcjjp2

I might just put the stops on ordering my HP for the Fall if, this is the new wave of HP beds. I am in no hurry to add it yet... I want the new cutting edge stuff..

Here's the problem I'm seeing with them. They are TINY and require DOUBLE the lamps (it seems). That Royal Sun bed has something like 70lamps in it. That's a LOT of lamps.

[dcjjp2]

about a 5K relamp

[Le]

I posted a pic of a meter reading I took in Vegas of the Royal sun unit, it was not to impresive...something like 60 on the ole' 5.0 at 25 cm stick. It did go over 200 at the glass however.

Steve, I still need a model 9.0 for my Lumiere; when will the first production run be?

[engfant]

I think the evenness of the tan is what this is best for. I bed the entire length of the bed reads the same unlike the typical low pressure tanning bed which is only strongest in the dead center (or facials depending)

[solarmeter®]

a model 9.0 for my Lumiere

I actually tried to make one... a prototype so to speak. But it was a failure. So much for radio shack led sensor! It picked up orange/read light fine.... but it read even higher to car headlights, etc.... which means the LCD reading was bogus.

Someday I might create a "real" 633nm filter over a GaAs photodiode if it looks like there's a demand out there. How many hours (or years) does Lumiere say their "lights" are good for before they age ?% and need replacement?