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HBT6872 · 24th September 2005, 05:16 PM

I would like to see the King in person. How does it compare to the Magic's looks? What is the UVB?

Natureboy · 24th September 2005, 06:32 PM

Jake · 24th September 2005, 07:46 PM

I get a kick out of "we" salon owners. Clients think they all look awsome, hell they could not tell one from the next.

Biggest difference between a tanning client and a salon owner...They don't go shopping to buy tanning beds. 99% of them find the salon nearest them go tan and if the place is nice and they get a tan they stay. Most have never even seen more that one or two HP beds in their life, in fact the vast majority of them have never even tried on before.

Now Europe...whole different world.

Shirl · 25th September 2005, 11:31 AM

It wouldn't look half-bad if they'd take off the red-swiss cheese-clothespins!

imported_ultraextremetan · 25th September 2005, 12:02 PM

Sorry to hear everyone is so negative about this unit. I have several salons and have been in the business since 1990. I am also a registered tech for several manufacturers and after dealing with so many of the problems from all the manufacturers, it is a good welcome for me to see this unit. A lot of the manufacturers build good tanning beds but they are not always easy or affordable to work on. I will not drop names of equipment that totally suck as far as repair/parts/assembly/electrical issues.... but there are a lot of them that are just trash after they break.. It will cost you a lot of money to fix some of the other HP units on the market. I can say that the only Sportarredo equipment that I get calls on are about 8 years old before they need a part replaced.... and it is always something simple to fix.

Sorry if i make anyone mad but I have several Ergo beds that are always needing something fixed on them and yet I do not ever have to fix my Sportarredo beds.

Lots of good tanning beds on the market...just would not buy some of them due to guaranteed future problems. Just speaking from a techs point of view.

engfant · 25th September 2005, 12:20 PM

people hate on things they can't have...which should be taken as a positive not a negative.

Of course Ergo sucks. Any bed that can be put out of commission cause the TV IS BROKEN is completely missing the point of tanning IMO.

imported_ultraextremetan · 25th September 2005, 12:26 PM

Thank you !

engfant · 25th September 2005, 12:35 PM

ps. transformers are not only the sh*t but...well, they are the sh*t is what I'm trying to say.

HBT6872 · 25th September 2005, 12:59 PM

Ergo beds are not sh**. Sporatarredo is making changes and bringing out a lot of new beds and seem to be going in the right direction. Good for them, and us! Having more choices and making everyone more competitive is good for salon owners.

Natureboy · 25th September 2005, 02:53 PM

I don't think the tanning ability of this bed or relyabilty was ever in question. Just the cosmetics are a little off the wall for some owners here looking at it.

Din · 25th September 2005, 05:37 PM

Don't get me wrong...i think it looks pretty neat for a new bed with the colours and all....but as it was said above.....What's with the red swiss cheese clothes pins on the front. Way too much plastic.

Wouldn't even think about having that in the salon when we offer the King for high pressure. And for the price...that confirmed it for not buying something like that. Can get the King for basically that amount.

If you have cheaper beds with all plastic and not quality made, then this would be the best of the best of plastic beds and would recommend that for you if that's what works for you. If you prefer higher quality made beds, then this will cheapen your salon I think.

My comments are now up to 3cents....my 2 cents were put in earlier on this post.

Dean

uv-PaUL · 25th September 2005, 05:41 PM

I think the bed looks great. Are those speakers, fans, or shoulder tanners at the "head end" of the lounge?

Jake · 25th September 2005, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Are those speakers, fans, or shoulder tanners at the "head end" of the lounge?

They are plastic doohickeys

Din · 25th September 2005, 06:57 PM

I think it's to put out fires when the plastic starts melting.....built in extinguishers.....also known as plastic doohickeys...YOU ARE RIGHT.

HBT6872 · 25th September 2005, 07:00 PM

I think we should wait to see it in person. I was told that it was a metal...so maybe it just looks like plastic. Does anyone from Sportarredo want to comment?

Jake · 25th September 2005, 10:10 PM

One of the things I dont like about this unit or the Matrix, Magic or King is they all have the user controls on the side, not user friendly at all.

imported_ultraextremetan · 26th September 2005, 11:24 AM

I was told the bed is 90% Metal and it just has some molded platic pieces just for looks. I do not see what the big deal is?? Everything we use: cars/boats/appliances/phones/computers--- anything and everything is made of plastic.. Is it good quality plastic or cheap $1 store quality?? I am sure this bed is not sold at the $1 Store....

SUN MASTERS · 26th September 2005, 04:01 PM

The unit is 90% solid steel 10% cosmetic plastic. Lamps are easy to change (plug in) should take about 30-40 minutes max. You should get about 700-800 hours out of the lamps. There are people running Sportarredo Extasy units getting a 1,000 hours out of the high pressure lamps in those units.

Natureboy · 26th September 2005, 04:24 PM

Is the bed adjustable for clients and salon owner like a Magic?

Miraclesun · 26th September 2005, 04:56 PM

As a vendor it is really hard to launch new first time unproven high pressure units into the market. We figured this out years ago. Salon owners sometimes do not like to purchase a new unit for $30,000.00. They feel like they are the guinea pig. So once they put out a hand full of units to their close customers, and start to work out any kinks if any. This will also give salon owners a chance to see the durability of the plastic that is used, how the unit tans, any hot spots, etc... It is really hard to build a high pressure unit these days with lots of plastic parts on it, because plastic normally breaks down under lots of heat, and UV. Your low pressure big VHR beds have a better chance, since the heat is not as intense. I'm not saying this unit will discolor, get spider cracks, etc... Just some concerns we have also experienced in the past from listening to salon owners, and what concerns they have.

Kindest Regards,

Al Reasonover

Miracle Sun, Inc.
4542 Elkhart rd. #700
Elkhart, IN 46517
1-800-449-9826
Fax (574)875-9742
miraclesun.net

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Natureboy Moderator Security Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada, just north of 50 Posts: 2,902	I don't think the tanning ability of this bed or relyabilty was ever in question. Just the cosmetics are a little off the wall for some owners here looking at it. __________________ Original Tantoday Class of 2000! Tellin' it like it is. www.millenniumtan.com

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24th September 2005, 05:16 PM	#21 (permalink)
HBT6872 Hall of Famer Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,645	I would like to see the King in person. How does it compare to the Magic's looks? What is the UVB?

24th September 2005, 07:46 PM	#23 (permalink)
Jake Super Star Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: south Posts: 522	I get a kick out of "we" salon owners. Clients think they all look awsome, hell they could not tell one from the next. Biggest difference between a tanning client and a salon owner...They don't go shopping to buy tanning beds. 99% of them find the salon nearest them go tan and if the place is nice and they get a tan they stay. Most have never even seen more that one or two HP beds in their life, in fact the vast majority of them have never even tried on before. Now Europe...whole different world.

25th September 2005, 11:31 AM	#24 (permalink)
Shirl All Star Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 92	It wouldn't look half-bad if they'd take off the red-swiss cheese-clothespins!

25th September 2005, 12:02 PM	#25 (permalink)
imported_ultraextremetan Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 6	Sorry to hear everyone is so negative about this unit. I have several salons and have been in the business since 1990. I am also a registered tech for several manufacturers and after dealing with so many of the problems from all the manufacturers, it is a good welcome for me to see this unit. A lot of the manufacturers build good tanning beds but they are not always easy or affordable to work on. I will not drop names of equipment that totally suck as far as repair/parts/assembly/electrical issues.... but there are a lot of them that are just trash after they break.. It will cost you a lot of money to fix some of the other HP units on the market. I can say that the only Sportarredo equipment that I get calls on are about 8 years old before they need a part replaced.... and it is always something simple to fix. Sorry if i make anyone mad but I have several Ergo beds that are always needing something fixed on them and yet I do not ever have to fix my Sportarredo beds. Lots of good tanning beds on the market...just would not buy some of them due to guaranteed future problems. Just speaking from a techs point of view.

25th September 2005, 12:20 PM	#26 (permalink)
engfant The Good, The Bad, The Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: at home Posts: 2,158	people hate on things they can't have...which should be taken as a positive not a negative. Of course Ergo sucks. Any bed that can be put out of commission cause the TV IS BROKEN is completely missing the point of tanning IMO.

25th September 2005, 12:26 PM	#27 (permalink)
imported_ultraextremetan Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 6	Thank you !

25th September 2005, 12:35 PM	#28 (permalink)
engfant The Good, The Bad, The Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: at home Posts: 2,158	ps. transformers are not only the sht but...well, they are the sht is what I'm trying to say.

25th September 2005, 12:59 PM	#29 (permalink)
HBT6872 Hall of Famer Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,645	Ergo beds are not sh**. Sporatarredo is making changes and bringing out a lot of new beds and seem to be going in the right direction. Good for them, and us! Having more choices and making everyone more competitive is good for salon owners.

25th September 2005, 05:37 PM	#31 (permalink)
Din Smartass Canuck Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 9,088	Don't get me wrong...i think it looks pretty neat for a new bed with the colours and all....but as it was said above.....What's with the red swiss cheese clothes pins on the front. Way too much plastic. Wouldn't even think about having that in the salon when we offer the King for high pressure. And for the price...that confirmed it for not buying something like that. Can get the King for basically that amount. If you have cheaper beds with all plastic and not quality made, then this would be the best of the best of plastic beds and would recommend that for you if that's what works for you. If you prefer higher quality made beds, then this will cheapen your salon I think. My comments are now up to 3cents....my 2 cents were put in earlier on this post. Dean

25th September 2005, 05:41 PM	#32 (permalink)
uv-PaUL All Star Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 198	I think the bed looks great. Are those speakers, fans, or shoulder tanners at the "head end" of the lounge?

25th September 2005, 06:57 PM	#34 (permalink)
Din Smartass Canuck Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 9,088	I think it's to put out fires when the plastic starts melting.....built in extinguishers.....also known as plastic doohickeys...YOU ARE RIGHT.

25th September 2005, 07:00 PM	#35 (permalink)
HBT6872 Hall of Famer Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,645	I think we should wait to see it in person. I was told that it was a metal...so maybe it just looks like plastic. Does anyone from Sportarredo want to comment?

25th September 2005, 10:10 PM	#36 (permalink)
Jake Super Star Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: south Posts: 522	One of the things I dont like about this unit or the Matrix, Magic or King is they all have the user controls on the side, not user friendly at all.

26th September 2005, 11:24 AM	#37 (permalink)
imported_ultraextremetan Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 6	I was told the bed is 90% Metal and it just has some molded platic pieces just for looks. I do not see what the big deal is?? Everything we use: cars/boats/appliances/phones/computers--- anything and everything is made of plastic.. Is it good quality plastic or cheap $1 store quality?? I am sure this bed is not sold at the $1 Store....

26th September 2005, 04:01 PM	#38 (permalink)
SUN MASTERS Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3	The unit is 90% solid steel 10% cosmetic plastic. Lamps are easy to change (plug in) should take about 30-40 minutes max. You should get about 700-800 hours out of the lamps. There are people running Sportarredo Extasy units getting a 1,000 hours out of the high pressure lamps in those units.

26th September 2005, 04:56 PM	#40 (permalink)
Miraclesun VENDOR Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 385	As a vendor it is really hard to launch new first time unproven high pressure units into the market. We figured this out years ago. Salon owners sometimes do not like to purchase a new unit for $30,000.00. They feel like they are the guinea pig. So once they put out a hand full of units to their close customers, and start to work out any kinks if any. This will also give salon owners a chance to see the durability of the plastic that is used, how the unit tans, any hot spots, etc... It is really hard to build a high pressure unit these days with lots of plastic parts on it, because plastic normally breaks down under lots of heat, and UV. Your low pressure big VHR beds have a better chance, since the heat is not as intense. I'm not saying this unit will discolor, get spider cracks, etc... Just some concerns we have also experienced in the past from listening to salon owners, and what concerns they have. Kindest Regards, Al Reasonover *Miracle Sun, Inc.* 4542 Elkhart rd. #700 Elkhart, IN 46517 1-800-449-9826 Fax (574)875-9742 miraclesun.net