Cobalt Blue Filter Breaking

[sparky]

seems like every time I move a pice of HP a cobalt breaks in a few hours. Nature of the beast I guess ???

Did you do a a complete clean on the filter glass when you installed ???

how did you remove the glass ??? just 'yank it out of the casettes ???

[Jones]

Drew...love you too!
But, during the move the glass probably shifted and caused undo stress on the glass maybe even creating a hairline crack then the machine is turned on...lamps, glass and metal heat up and swell creating pressure and BAM! I really think it is a valid response, really I do. BUT, it's also OK to disagree with each other...isn't the first time - won't be the last.

Still love you baby! LOL

Shari

[BIG AL]

I have had only one break in the 11 months I have my Magic and it broke a couple of months ago. It was on the outside row, second from feet. We had a new glass in a couple of days and Patryk told me how to get the bed up and ruuning until i got the new glass.

[solarmeter®]

Um - how do you "up and run" with busted glass?

Stick a piece of Ace Hardware window glass in there?

[Rob]

I was wondering the same thing?

[Din]

To get it up and running is to replace the glass with one on the end at the bottom by the feet and to disconnect the lamp by the feet so it doesn't come on. This way one lamp is shut off by the ankles, you still get enough colour from the rest, you still get your $40/session in the meantime and then when the glass comes in, you replace and reconnect and you are back up and running. That's how. you don't just shut down the bed for 3-4 days until you get the glass. Lose too much income that way.

[Drew]

Thanks DIN, now I can take out that plywood I put over the middle row second lamp down.

[sparky]

I knock out the lamp under the head pillow on the bench when that happened.

simple to pull the fuse for that specific lamp on a MAGIC.

SUNSPORT 2021 has a similar feature in that you can turn off the individual circuit breaker until the proper part(s) arrive. 2021 is even easier to swap parts around so you can leave the center lamp by the foot off, still running the bed until replacements are shipped.

[SUNNYDAYS]

Sounds like a may be a good idea to have a spare glass to keep the bed running in top shape.

Last thing I would want is to have my flagship bed with a lamp out and have a new client have it be their first impression of my salon.

[solarmeter®]

Or - a spare piece of plywood.

[Din]

Thing is that there is a delay on the feet of 10seconds (i have it at) so by the time they get in and the rest of the lamps are on and warming up....they are already laying down and the canopy is down, so they don't see crap under their feet unless they sit completely up in the bed.

I usually tell the customer anyhow as it's usually only for a day or so under those circumstances.

DREW, you should double check if that plywood is UV transparant. If you remember that one guy that was losing power on his standup cuz his cages have lost their UV transparancy and were now blocking the UV whereas before they were allowing the uv to go through.....that was funny. Well you should make sure the plywood is not UV transparant plywood like the uv transparant metal cages that guy was using. It could cause someone to burn badly. Go to homedepot and ask for Akbar, and ask them for Non UV Transparant Plywood.....tell him I sent you.

[txtan]

Thank you to everyone and all your responses, I have learned alot this past week or so about my new purchase. Mattias and Patrick with Sun Italia were awesome, they got me new glass overnight, and Mattias walked through the transformer with a tech. and now I am up and running and not feeling like bacon frying in a pan when I tan. The problem was the transformer there was way too much power coming out of it, it was at 413 and they changed it to 393, and they also corrected the wiring in the transformer so now we can actually turn down the lamps where before we weren't able to and too much power was going into the bed, probably why one of the new facial lamps blew, I am sure this caused some of the glass breakage but maybe the stress of the move caused issues also. Anyway Thank you all again I am now ready to make some money with this bad boy!!

txtan

[BIG AL]

Din, that is exactly how Patryk told me how to get the bed up and running again. In a couple of days the filter was delivered and everything was back to normal.

At the show I was suprised to find out that not all high pressure beds have the safety switches to shut off the bed if a filter breaks. The Mastersun has no safety switches in case the glass breaks. I was told that because the glass was not in a cassette that the glass would not break. Each piece of glass is layed over the edge of the next piece of glass, kind of like when you fan out a deck of cards. It just seems to me that with as much heat as a high pressure lamp puts out that any minor
flaw in the glass could cause one to break.

[Din]

Al,

It costs an extra $100 to add that feature....i guess they figured that was too much of an investment on people's lives and lawsuits against salons so they left it out. Why not right....save $100.

Dean

[Natureboy]

LOL, once I had an 818 running with a phase out (without knowing about it) so only 12 lamps were on randomly in the bed. Tanned about a dozen clients, until finally one client noticed and told us.

Just had to change a main 100 amp fuse in the main disconnect in the back.

[Brian Oshman]

The problem was the transformer there was way too much power coming out of it, it was at 413 and they changed it to 393, and they also corrected the wiring in the transformer so now we can actually turn down the lamps where before we weren't able to and too much power was going into the bed,

Proper phasing is important with this bed for the triacs to operate properly and control lamp output.

Also, the taps in the transformer are a set and forget thing. This is to finely dial in the voltage in relation to your incoming voltage. Regularly moving these taps will eventually break them and destroy the transformer. A costly $2500 dollar mistake plus shipping and labor.

All the control you need is at the keypad.