MUG 6 Glass....

[sparky]

not a world changing event on that note.

raised the UVB a few points, but reduces the IR heat dramatically.

The performance Clear Glass, that you had installed from factory, makes the bigger UVB change, and also cuts out IR heat probably just by the thickness of glass.

[Din]

what if i was to change the clear glass......with just a tempered glass from a glass shop. Is it the thickness that makes the difference in UVB and IR heat? is there a different clear glass i can put in to increase the UVB so more?

I had the legs on level 1 and other lamps on level 4 due to the fact of hot spots made it too uncomfortable to tan in. Since i put the Mug 6, i put everything to level 6 with 850hours on the lamps. and Level 7 for the face. There are 8 levels in total.

Shouldn't i see some type of difference other than when i come out immediately?

[Din]

Okay....so ppl are still complaining about hot spots on their legs....this was the same problem i had before and the reason i got the Mug6 glass. now it's still a problem

[Saturn Boy]

good question. I dont think i'd experiment with a glass that isn't made for the machine...just my opinion.

Can you meter down by the legs and give us an idea of what kinda numbers your machine is putting out? (5.0 solarmeter)

[Din]

will do.....meters are at the other location....will try and meter them tomorrow if possible and post numbers.

I notice inconsistency on the numbers eventhough the lamps are at same hours and same level. Why would that be?

example

Level 4 and some lamps meter at 95 and others meter at 120 etc...

I know that the good part is adjustability of each lamp separately ....but i shouldn't have to put some on level 1 some on level 4 and some on level 7 to get even output...lamp life will be different for each idividual lamp then. Have you noticed this?

[solarmeter®]

Din.... you should have recorded all three meter readings in center of bed before the glass change and then after.

It's too hard trying to do each HP lamp and averaging them. Doing each lamp close to (or at) glass is fine for seeing which lamps are degrading how much relative to the others... but for the glass change an overall center reading is better.

Generally the 5.0 meter won't change much... because UVA transmits through all the glass types quite well. The 6.0 and 7.0 meters (if you have them) would likely show fairly significant increases in UVB and MED/hr respectively.

For HEAT (IR) you'd need a Radio Shack digital temperature meter to see any differences.

[Din]

i understand i would meter the bed in the middle.....but it's a HP bed with individually adjustable HP lamps with 8 levels. It also has a contoured acrylic which puts your legs about 6 inches higher than your body and therefore closer to the lamps. Readings are different at the legs than they are at the body or the face. This is not a flat bed like the Magic.

If i were to put it so that it reads 100 on the body, the legs could be 145 on the meter. So it works differently on this bed.....it's messed up.

I just figured the Mug6 would take care of that and i STILL have ppl saying it's insanely hot on the legs. And it's at level 6 only. I just lowered the legs to 5.

[Jones]

hmmmmmmmmmmm....i wonder what's going on here?????

Answers anyone?

[sparky]

change out those Hereaus lamps

seriously, you went from 1 to 6 on the leg lamps, of couse there will be more intensity and therefore (NOT Hence) more heat produced overall.

I still keep the lower portion of the bed at lower settings than the face and middle sections with MUG6. that's the beauty of the bed, option to individually control output throughout.

[Jones]

Wrong answer, sorry.
Anyone else? Din, I hope you don't hurt anyone before someone figures it out.

[Brian Oshman]

Here's a wrong answer.

Din if the clear glass is positioned closest to client - it can break and the bed will NOT shut off. The sensors are on the inside glass holder only...

Blue closest to lamp, clear closest to client.

Give the glass some time to solarize and then readjust. Having the adjustibility is the key to make the bed even all the way throughout. Don't get too concerned about if alll the lamps are not on the same level.

Single sheet will be fine on the face. My customers with the Magic all have the Mug 6 throughout and never broke. Bed has great cooling.

[Brian Oshman]

And relamp with Radium/Supra when it is time.

[Din]

Yup....it's at 850hours right now....will be relamping with Supra lamps shortly.

I have the meters but haven't had a chance to meter it as it's been booked solid since i opened. I actually had ppl waiting outside before i opened for it. So when i get a chance i'll meter it.

As for juicing up the lamps from 1 to 5-6 shouldn't be an issue. If the bed is at 850hours...why would i still have to keep the lamps at level 1. They should be raised up every 150hours or so for more power and results.

Sparky....you have a King also? What does yours meter? You still have same lamps in there or did you change to Supra also? If so, did you notice a bigger difference in performance?

[Brian Oshman]

He has a Magic.

[Din]

Originally Posted by Jones

Wrong answer, sorry.
Anyone else? Din, I hope you don't hurt anyone before someone figures it out.

Hurt someone.....I'm far from doing anything like that....if anything, i'm trying to get MORE out of it cuz it's not enough for my clients.

[Miraclesun]

Din,
You mentioned that you tanned, and you didn't feel any hot spots? Make sure the body blowers located on the top of the unit are opened. I would take the blowers located in the middle of the bed, and open them fully, and direct them in the area that is hot. This should blow a nice cool breeze across that part of the legs, and eliminate any hot spots. This should cool the bed overall tremendously.

Al

Does your King have 4 x 600 watt lamps in it? There should be 3 behind your back where the acrylic is closer to the body? Also, you should have 1 x 600 watt at the end of the bed right above your feet, also where the lamp is closer because of the contour of the acrylic.

[Jones]

[quote=Brian Oshman;177029]Here's a wrong answer.




Blue closest to lamp, clear closest to client.


That's what I said Brian, you haven trouble reading?

[Jones]

Originally Posted by Din

Hurt someone.....I'm far from doing anything like that....if anything, i'm trying to get MORE out of it cuz it's not enough for my clients.

What??? You said your clients were STILL COMPLAINING about hot spots...even with the MUG 6??? But now you are trying to get MORE out of it cuz it's not enough? Do you mean you are trying to get more TAN and not so much HEAT??? I'm

[Brian Oshman]

Originally Posted by Jones

Din if the clear glass is positioned closest to client - it can break and the bed will NOT shut off. The sensors are on the inside glass holder only...

The clear glass should be mounted closest to the client. I have no problem interpreting the writen word. Your statement is incorrect. That is not what you said.

[W8INLINE]

Shari, what Din was trying to say is that the bed so far (with the original glass) satisfied the more fair skin types, and people felt intense hot spots during the session. Now we changed to mug6 and he thought the extra b would satisfy some of the "VHR worshipers" and at the same time IR heat would go down. He (DIN) is one shade darker than an albino, and after changing the glass, he tried a session, and he thinks the results are not as "dramatic" as he thought.