First Leonardo Detroit area

[scott h]

Acrylic size: 42 X 83
Foot print of bed: 96 x 66

More info to come.

[W8INLINE]

Originally Posted by SUNNYDAYS

Drew

Did you get any meter readings yet?

It would be interesting to see the reading side by side with a Matrix.

[Miraclesun]

huh, the Matrix meters about 65, or 70 at best...... Unless the new ones have done something different?

Al

[Drew]

Matrix is a joke for output. And if you don't go with right lamps..you will get low to mid 50's with new lamps.

All of Matrix output comes from the fact that they removed the sheet of clear glass.....doubling the heat too. Bed was never designed to be a performer...just a 20 min bed Nrigged to work in the US market.

[Natureboy]

Any more info on the Leonardo?

There are no bed dimentions on the Sun Italia website? Or any info for that matter that I can see.

[Matt A]

http://www.miraclesun.net/



I think Miraclesun is selling them and importing them not Sun Italia.

[uv2021]

You can get the Leo from SunItalia or Miracle Sun.

[Miraclesun]

Depends. Everything from Logicam (Saturn & Leonardo) from here on out comes through Miracle Sun. I thought I posted this somewhere. SCA Sun Systems has exclusive territories, so yes I can sell to Sun Italia as long as they sell into a territory that is not taken.

Here is what I posted....
7th December 2007, 03:41 PM Miraclesun
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Re: New Magic and SunSport....
Just for the record. Sun Italia/Tantech can only sell Miracle Sun equipment in territories that are not exclusive. They are still one of my distributors. When they want a Saturn, or Leonardo they will have to buy from me directly. I did make a one time special deal for them to buy their last 7 units directly. That container should be arriving shortly.

[Drew]

Call up sun italia if you want to know what they sell. 800 550 4056

[Natureboy]

Well, if it is a true 63 inches across wide I will buy one for a 7 foot wide room that has an UB 818 in it.

Been trying to replace these beds for years with a 360 laydown that will fit. (I can't change the walls) A ub 818 is 60 inches accross so 3 inches more should be fine. I have like 3.5 tons of A/C going into the room and their exhausted.

No, I don't want a Saturn in there.

[Island Cove]

Natureboy, I know i'm gonna get razzed on here by all the sun Itallia lovers, but I REALLY REALLY suggest you see this unit in person before you buy. Pictures do this unit great justice! I thought it was the 2nd most hideous, cheap looking Hp unit on the show room floor in Nashville. It looks so flimsy and so bare naked. Yuck. The Velocity even looks better. I would however suggest contacting John from URI and looking into that baby matrix. That was a small SAWEEEET looking unit, that didn't look like it would fall apart the minute you climbed on that acrylic.

Razz on me all you want. I know your salesman is probably talking up the shit on this unit big time, I'm not a sales man for this matrix, I am just telling you what I saw. LOOK at this unit before you buy. You will be very disapointed otherwise.

[Island Cove]

http://www.tantoday.com/forums/attac...g?d=1192408811

http://www.tantoday.com/forums/attac...g?d=1192409088

[W8INLINE]

Island, I for one won't RAZZ you out for voicing your opinion. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder... after all if we all liked the same things and had the same taste we would all drive the same model cars, wear the exact same clothes, and fight to the death over the same woman/man to marry. I caught a glimpse of a porno the other day, called FATLINERS!!!! wow 800lbs women getting hammered by 90lb guys which must found them sexy cause they were like a rock....

anyways.....back on topic....

[Drew]

The Leonardo doesn't look flimsy..in fact..it is made of some virtually indestructable composit that won't even scratch. Not even with your keys. And I tried. Even jumped on a corner piece and it wouldn't bend.

Only the fan to me looks funny, but I hate the fan on the P Beds from UWE and I don'tlike the fans on the JK vhr line either.

This bed isn't a replacement for an 818 unless the 818 customers also LOVE a Vhr bed. This is like the new saturn...4 meds and super high uv-a. The Best VHR bed ever made.

[Island Cove]

It looks flimsy to me, It looks like a hot dog. but thats me. The fact that its a high uvb , Natureboy, I know your all about True HP. If your looking for a smaller idea of your Magics, that perform like your magics, this isn't it.

[Saturn Boy]

Originally Posted by W8INLINE

Island, I for one won't RAZZ you out for voicing your opinion. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder... after all if we all liked the same things and had the same taste we would all drive the same model cars, wear the exact same clothes, and fight to the death over the same woman/man to marry. I caught a glimpse of a porno the other day, called FATLINERS!!!! wow 800lbs women getting hammered by 90lb guys which must found them sexy cause they were like a rock....

anyways.....back on topic....

Thats funny. Believe it or not, I've seen Fatliners too. When i was in college, the pledges at my fraternity were forced to watch Fatliners. If you liked it, you were booted. Obviously nobody liked it, but it was a great way of razzing the new guys in the house.

[W8INLINE]

^^^^ SEE????^^^^

You wouldnt believe how many ppl PM'ed me thinking I was making this shit up.

[Natureboy]

Yah, it's higher UVB, but I find most of my customers want that more and more now anyway. Not trying to 'replace' my upgraded (1%)818 in this one room but rather to go with something different and exciting.

Don't worry salespeople, I am only 75% decided.

P.S, I wouldn't buy a Matrix if they where half price.

[Island Cove]

P.S, I wouldn't buy a Matrix if they where half price.

Just curious as to why?

Yah, it's higher UVB, but I find most of my customers want that more and more now anyway.

I would think your ub 818 customers would find the leonardo at 4meds a little too much uvb. It would be hard to promote HP as long lasting color, and soft skin when exposed to that much uvb. Might as well have a combo. It would be similar.

[uv2021]

Raw horsepower is what this machine delivers.We don't have a lot of issues with the Saturn from folks who went from traditional HP .