Previous HP user doesn't like magic

[EliteMike]

I have a girl that has been using a matress HP, she doesn't think the Magic is getting her as dark, which after reading other comments I can agree with her. Not enough B, She won't go into a High B unit either.

[W8INLINE]

what matress hp has she been using?

[EliteMike]

She's not sure, and its not local competition either. One of these days I'll get out there to check it out

[Jones]

Let me guess....

[uv2021]

Don't worry your Magic kicks ass.There are so many variables that could lead to a comment like that that it would be impossible to list them all.At the place where she used the "mattress" they problembly had on the very same day a customer who said"I got WAY more coulor from an all glass bed with those kind of lamps"

I have 10 HP units I have clients who will swear that room A gives them way more,but roomB is actually stronger.I have one who will come out of a 360 and say the mattress stinks and you could not pay me to use it.

Next client comes out of a mattress and bitches they will never use the 360 because it sucks.

You just need to keep your Magic clean,well ventilated and at the right setting.You will build a tremendous clientle for it.I would recommend BANNING yourself and your staff from tanning on any other unit in the salon.Do 3-4 sessions in 10-12 days .Use a good lotion and a professional tan extender and then everybody tans 3-4 sessions a month,go 4 a month.Your confidence and that of your staff will soar.Then the next time someone comes in with that kind of statement you won't need to get paranoid.

[neon beach]

Good grief. Let me ask this, was she as black as tar but thinks she's pale?

[EliteMike]

actually, she was pretty dark, but I think she's darker skinned too

[solarmeter®]

Magic with MUG-6 has plenty enough UVB... Shari would say too much. You need a 7.0 meter to figure time to 4 MEDs. Probably 12-15 minutes... which is strong for an HP.

Old UB818 mattress beds were low B and took like 45 minutes to 4 MEDs... way longer than people ever used them for (per side).

No idea what kind of modern mattress bed gives more B than a magic... perhaps there are some. But generally skin type 3-4 with lots of base tan don't see much instant gratification from any HP bed. They prefer VHR®/VHOR with 6-7% UVB (or more) to "get something" quick.

[EliteMike]

Did Shari ever get hers running right?

[Island Cove]

some people gage the reddening from the heat they get as a tan, remind customers that the color they see imediatly after their session is not the tan, its just from the heat. In my experience, The UB818 holds in way more heat than my mastersun, so you imediatly look redder, and if you have a dark tan already, it will apear darker, but The mastersun has more B and the color after a day up to 3 days later is way better. The mastersun has a wicked cooling system and airflow whereas the UB818 is lacking and is an enclosed heat box. I would presume much would be the same for the Magic.

There are other factors also involved. She may be maxed out in her tan and therefore can't get any darker, but when she was using the other HP unit she was still building her tan. Also if she goes too often, your color will actualy start to fade from overexposer, damaged melanocites don't produce melanin. Perhaps suggest to her to take a few weeks off ( as she only needs 2-3 sessions per month maintenance on Hp), then get her tanning in your unit, then she will notice a huge difference.

Now, if she's using a N'joy matress unit, then that is the problem, it has a bit more B than the Magic and that is what someone dark skin will asociate with more tanned.

[Din]

Originally Posted by Island Cove

Now, if she's using a N'joy matress unit, then that is the problem, it has a bit more B than the Magic and that is what someone dark skin will asociate with more tanned.

HAHAHAHA....now is that your way of saying the N'Joy is better than the Magic?

[Island Cove]

Not at all, the N'joy is just higher UVB than the magic thats all,

[Din]

OH......okay.....

[UltrabronzSteve]

Mike

She could be tanning in a UB950 as there are about 6 in PA. If she is then that unit has 1%.

[John]

I would recommend BANNING yourself and your staff from tanning on any other unit in the salon.

If it's the best unit in the store, that should be all they want to use.

The Njoy will meter 110 & has more UVB, it is really impressive for such a small unit. And there is no need to adjust anything on it.

[Jones]

[quote=John;192604]If it's the best unit in the store, that should be all they want to use.

I was wondering if anyone else was gonna pick up on that one! UNBELIEVABLE!!

[Jones]

Steve right there is the problem...you said,
No idea what kind of modern mattress bed gives more B than a magic... perhaps there are some.

NO MORE UVB is needed...matter of fact if you know how to get the reflector, lamp and glass config right...the better beds are always lower uvb and a ton of uva...BETTER TANNING! Getting someone red or having too much UVB is not what most hp users are looking for...
when you have high b beds in hp you take away my selling point thus taking away my sell...high b does NOT MAKE A BETTER HP BED>.................PERIOD!

[solarmeter®]

Agreed... but the odd thing here is that this one particular user wants (or thinks she wants) more UVB.

Go figure...

[Natureboy]

Originally Posted by uv2021

Don't worry your Magic kicks ass.There are so many variables that could lead to a comment like that that it would be impossible to list them all.At the place where she used the "mattress" they problembly had on the very same day a customer who said"I got WAY more coulor from an all glass bed with those kind of lamps"

I have 10 HP units I have clients who will swear that room A gives them way more,but roomB is actually stronger.I have one who will come out of a 360 and say the mattress stinks and you could not pay me to use it.

Next client comes out of a mattress and bitches they will never use the 360 because it sucks.

You just need to keep your Magic clean,well ventilated and at the right setting.You will build a tremendous clientle for it.I would recommend BANNING yourself and your staff from tanning on any other unit in the salon.Do 3-4 sessions in 10-12 days .Use a good lotion and a professional tan extender and then everybody tans 3-4 sessions a month,go 4 a month.Your confidence and that of your staff will soar.Then the next time someone comes in with that kind of statement you won't need to get paranoid.

Perfectly said. I get this all the time. I still have clients that think the 30 minute original glass UB 818 gets them darker. Why? Because that is the bed they first used, got dark in and now like it like an old friend.

I had a client say my Magic tanned him darker last year then this year which is impossible because I added Mug 6 this year, so the B and total output is better? How does that make sense? Probably because he tried it first time ever last year, turned darked then ever before and faster in his life and now the WOW factor is over.

It is like sex, pot, booze, just about anything is best the first time. After that, you are chasing that original high.

[Jones]

Is tunnel vision a concern as it relates to eyewear usage? We seem to be seeing a lot of it in the tanning industry.
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