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SUNNYDAYS · 29th June 2007, 12:15 PM

Does anyone know what the average reading on a 5.0 would be for a Sunboard Plus?

solarmeter® · 29th June 2007, 02:34 PM

Quite high... as I recall. Don't remember readings tho.

Brian Oshman · 29th June 2007, 11:30 PM

40 to 50 mils.

Le · 30th June 2007, 12:18 AM

What does the XTT hit?

solarmeter® · 30th June 2007, 02:06 PM

That might be the one I was thinking of as "quite high".

W8INLINE · 30th June 2007, 02:09 PM

For some reason, open designed beds IMO won't get high readings but could tan you very well...could i be right? or am I just blowing wind

Brian Oshman · 30th June 2007, 05:51 PM

XTT gets 50 to 60 mils. More B then the plus too.

frankie · 30th June 2007, 06:02 PM

My Sunboard gets used all the time. Great Bed. This is the way it goes. IBED, Sunboard, IBED, "Sunboard, IBED, Sunboard, etc. Sometimes we put them in a stimulating bed just to give them a little reddening.

Din · 30th June 2007, 06:46 PM

I like stimulating beds too Frankie........

How's the Ibed going? You likes?

frankie · 3rd July 2007, 12:09 AM

They looooooooooooove my IPOD ooops I mean IBED

SUNNYDAYS · 3rd July 2007, 11:32 AM

I metered a Sunboard Plus with new Supras in it and it was around 60 on the 5.0. Initial 7.0 readings brings the unit to 4 meds in 15 minutes the unit is a 20 minute max. I am sure as the lamps settle in they will tame down a bit.

uv-PaUL · 3rd July 2007, 11:27 PM

Gerry:

Are you using the 2 types of 1000 watt lamps (Plus and regular) in top canopy and arms?

SUNNYDAYS · 4th July 2007, 09:11 AM

Talk to mike I am not sure what types he put in. All I know is that he put Supras in.

Brian Oshman · 4th July 2007, 04:10 PM

Those are good numbers for that unit. Raising the average reading 10 mils from other lamps is good. They should hang there for a while too at that reading, the unit does not run hot at all if vented and will give better overall lamp life too then the original.

MR.TANLINES · 4th July 2007, 10:59 PM

I threw in all the reg 1000 watters...Other than Paul , do the PLUS's really make that much of a difference?

SUNNYDAYS · 5th July 2007, 11:26 AM

Does Supra offer plus lamps?

Drew · 5th July 2007, 03:09 PM

the plus lamp isn't necessary. I have not , nor do most people I know use them. The Supras way outperform the hereaus lamps and the reason that UWE started with the smaller plus lamp way back in the day was that the larger lamps were getting "overcooled"...which isn't a problem with Supra lamps as they run a bit hotter than heraeus and overcooling doesn't seem to be a problem.

I know on my regular sunboard I only get 2 med's in 20 mins and just about 35 mills at the body. But for a drew quotient of 700 (35 x 20)..it is still better than most vhr's for total A.

The back isn't great....but I relamp the back every 100 hours or so now that 400 watt clip ins are cheap.

uv-PaUL · 5th July 2007, 11:08 PM

Is it not necessary because you say so, or because AUVL/Supra doesn't carry that lamp?

You have never used the plus lamp in your Sunboard BECAUSE it wasn't designed with it.

There have been 3 versions of the Sunboard.

Sunboard
Sunboard plus
Sunboard XTT

The original Sunboard (which you have) had all circular/bowl reflectors with 1000 watt plug ins. (The only type AUVL/Supra sells).

The Sunboard PLUS changed some of the lamps and some of the reflectors. Three of the four reflectors on each arm (starting from head area) were changed to an older style basic square reflector (like UB). The rest of the reflectors remained circular/bowl.

The first 2 lamps in arms, and the first 3 in canopy (from head)were switched to 1000 watt PLUS (thinner style) to help ADJUST A FOCUS ISSUE.

You can buy a PAR90 lamp for you salon ceiling lighting in a NSP (narrow spot 9 degrees, or 12 degrees (wider) or FLOOD 35 degrees etc.)

What is the difference?

The area of light that hits the floor.

This is the same issue with the PLUS lamp. It changed the diameter of the lamps throw. Between the changed square reflector and the different degree of coverage from the thinner PLUS lamp, the coverage became MORE even.

The Sunboard XTT (latest version) changed back to all regular 1000 watt plug ins like the original Sunboard. This model uses single mirror glass filters. (Previous 2 models used 1 blue, and 1 clear for each lamp).

Side arms still have 3 old style square reflectors, and the circular/bowl facial reflector has 16 facets instead of 12 like all others.

In Nashville 06 I spoke with uwe engineers, techs, and PC Bruce (all individually) and asked this same question 8 months before it appeared here.

"Does the Sunboard Plus model still need the Plus lamps since the XTT doesn't use them?"

All answered yes, for reasons mentioned above.

For the record, the PLUS lamps are located in the OVER HEATED area not the over cooled area. The face lamp in canopy gets the most heat (yes it is closest to fan HOWEVER all the heat from the 4 lamps in front of it pass by.

The fact that Gerry got a very high reading of 60 proves the focus is off. I believe his number, but the clients nose will be tanner then their shoulders. The PLUS would read lower, but the tanning coverage would be more uniform (as well as the reading). I bet the 60 was dead center, and fell off as he moved meter outward.

solarmeter® · 6th July 2007, 12:32 AM

Who'da thunk uv-PaUL was so hi-TeCH ?

Years of smart-alec cryptic posts' image just shattered.....

Oh - except for those expert expo summary posts circa 2002-3-4.

Brian Oshman · 6th July 2007, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Who'da thunk uv-PaUL was so hi-TeCH ?

Years of smart-alec cryptic posts' image just shattered.....

Oh - except for those expert expo summary posts circa 2002-3-4.

Yeah, no kiddin'.

29th June 2007, 12:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
SUNNYDAYS Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: EAST COAST Posts: 1,511	Sunboard Plus 5.0 Readings Does anyone know what the average reading on a 5.0 would be for a Sunboard Plus?

29th June 2007, 02:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
solarmeter® UV Geek Squad Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Lake St Clair Posts: 3,326	Re: Sunboard Plus 5.0 Readings Quite high... as I recall. Don't remember readings tho.

29th June 2007, 11:30 PM	#3 (permalink)
Brian Oshman Off The Chain Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Sun Doctor, Califon, NJ Posts: 6,898	Re: Sunboard Plus 5.0 Readings 40 to 50 mils. __________________ Three can keep a secret if two are dead.

30th June 2007, 12:18 AM	#4 (permalink)
Le Hall of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cloud 9 Posts: 1,388	Re: Sunboard Plus 5.0 Readings What does the XTT hit? __________________ "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." - Aristotle "The first step to becoming is to will it." - Mother Teresa

30th June 2007, 02:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
solarmeter® UV Geek Squad Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Lake St Clair Posts: 3,326	Re: Sunboard Plus 5.0 Readings That might be the one I was thinking of as "quite high".

30th June 2007, 02:09 PM	#6 (permalink)
W8INLINE Hall of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Global Posts: 1,971	Re: Sunboard Plus 5.0 Readings For some reason, open designed beds IMO won't get high readings but could tan you very well...could i be right? or am I just blowing wind __________________ ......................Flashback 2001........................ "One of the 'ORIGINAL' TanToday Gang"

30th June 2007, 05:51 PM	#7 (permalink)
Brian Oshman Off The Chain Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Sun Doctor, Califon, NJ Posts: 6,898	Re: Sunboard Plus 5.0 Readings XTT gets 50 to 60 mils. More B then the plus too. __________________ Three can keep a secret if two are dead.

30th June 2007, 06:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
frankie Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Casino .com Posts: 3,671	Re: Sunboard Plus 5.0 Readings My Sunboard gets used all the time. Great Bed. This is the way it goes. IBED, Sunboard, IBED, "Sunboard, IBED, Sunboard, etc. Sometimes we put them in a stimulating bed just to give them a little reddening.

30th June 2007, 06:46 PM	#9 (permalink)
Din Smartass Canuck Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 9,090	Re: Sunboard Plus 5.0 Readings I like stimulating beds too Frankie........ How's the Ibed going? You likes? __________________ www.ChronosMarketing.com ____________________________________________ The problem nowadays is stupidity. Why don't we just take the safety labels off everything and see what happens?

3rd July 2007, 12:09 AM	#10 (permalink)
frankie Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Casino .com Posts: 3,671	Re: Sunboard Plus 5.0 Readings They looooooooooooove my IPOD ooops I mean IBED

3rd July 2007, 11:32 AM	#11 (permalink)
SUNNYDAYS Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: EAST COAST Posts: 1,511	Re: Sunboard Plus 5.0 Readings I metered a Sunboard Plus with new Supras in it and it was around 60 on the 5.0. Initial 7.0 readings brings the unit to 4 meds in 15 minutes the unit is a 20 minute max. I am sure as the lamps settle in they will tame down a bit.

3rd July 2007, 11:27 PM	#12 (permalink)
uv-PaUL All Star Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 198	Re: Sunboard Plus 5.0 Readings Gerry: Are you using the 2 types of 1000 watt lamps (Plus and regular) in top canopy and arms?

4th July 2007, 09:11 AM	#13 (permalink)
SUNNYDAYS Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: EAST COAST Posts: 1,511	Re: Sunboard Plus 5.0 Readings Talk to mike I am not sure what types he put in. All I know is that he put Supras in.

4th July 2007, 04:10 PM	#14 (permalink)
Brian Oshman Off The Chain Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Sun Doctor, Califon, NJ Posts: 6,898	Re: Sunboard Plus 5.0 Readings Those are good numbers for that unit. Raising the average reading 10 mils from other lamps is good. They should hang there for a while too at that reading, the unit does not run hot at all if vented and will give better overall lamp life too then the original. __________________ Three can keep a secret if two are dead.

4th July 2007, 10:59 PM	#15 (permalink)
MR.TANLINES Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 1,068	Re: Sunboard Plus 5.0 Readings I threw in all the reg 1000 watters...Other than Paul , do the PLUS's really make that much of a difference?

5th July 2007, 11:26 AM	#16 (permalink)
SUNNYDAYS Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: EAST COAST Posts: 1,511	Re: Sunboard Plus 5.0 Readings Does Supra offer plus lamps?

5th July 2007, 03:09 PM	#17 (permalink)
Drew Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ca Posts: 2,890	Re: Sunboard Plus 5.0 Readings the plus lamp isn't necessary. I have not , nor do most people I know use them. The Supras way outperform the hereaus lamps and the reason that UWE started with the smaller plus lamp way back in the day was that the larger lamps were getting "overcooled"...which isn't a problem with Supra lamps as they run a bit hotter than heraeus and overcooling doesn't seem to be a problem. I know on my regular sunboard I only get 2 med's in 20 mins and just about 35 mills at the body. But for a drew quotient of 700 (35 x 20)..it is still better than most vhr's for total A. The back isn't great....but I relamp the back every 100 hours or so now that 400 watt clip ins are cheap.

5th July 2007, 11:08 PM	#18 (permalink)
uv-PaUL All Star Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 198	Re: Sunboard Plus 5.0 Readings Is it not necessary because you say so, or because AUVL/Supra doesn't carry that lamp? You have never used the plus lamp in your Sunboard BECAUSE it wasn't designed with it. There have been 3 versions of the Sunboard. Sunboard Sunboard plus Sunboard XTT The original Sunboard (which you have) had all circular/bowl reflectors with 1000 watt plug ins. (The only type AUVL/Supra sells). The Sunboard PLUS changed some of the lamps and some of the reflectors. Three of the four reflectors on each arm (starting from head area) were changed to an older style basic square reflector (like UB). The rest of the reflectors remained circular/bowl. The first 2 lamps in arms, and the first 3 in canopy (from head)were switched to 1000 watt PLUS (thinner style) to help ADJUST A FOCUS ISSUE. You can buy a PAR90 lamp for you salon ceiling lighting in a NSP (narrow spot 9 degrees, or 12 degrees (wider) or FLOOD 35 degrees etc.) What is the difference? The area of light that hits the floor. This is the same issue with the PLUS lamp. It changed the diameter of the lamps throw. Between the changed square reflector and the different degree of coverage from the thinner PLUS lamp, the coverage became MORE even. The Sunboard XTT (latest version) changed back to all regular 1000 watt plug ins like the original Sunboard. This model uses single mirror glass filters. (Previous 2 models used 1 blue, and 1 clear for each lamp). Side arms still have 3 old style square reflectors, and the circular/bowl facial reflector has 16 facets instead of 12 like all others. In Nashville 06 I spoke with uwe engineers, techs, and PC Bruce (all individually) and asked this same question 8 months before it appeared here. "Does the Sunboard Plus model still need the Plus lamps since the XTT doesn't use them?" All answered yes, for reasons mentioned above. For the record, the PLUS lamps are located in the OVER HEATED area not the over cooled area. The face lamp in canopy gets the most heat (yes it is closest to fan HOWEVER all the heat from the 4 lamps in front of it pass by. The fact that Gerry got a very high reading of 60 proves the focus is off. I believe his number, but the clients nose will be tanner then their shoulders. The PLUS would read lower, but the tanning coverage would be more uniform (as well as the reading). I bet the 60 was dead center, and fell off as he moved meter outward.

6th July 2007, 12:32 AM	#19 (permalink)
solarmeter® UV Geek Squad Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Lake St Clair Posts: 3,326	Re: Sunboard Plus 5.0 Readings Who'da thunk uv-PaUL was so hi-TeCH ? Years of smart-alec cryptic posts' image just shattered..... Oh - except for those expert expo summary posts circa 2002-3-4.

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