Sportarrado Njoy HP...Big Enough Upgrade for my Salon?

[uv2021]

It's not the unit ..it's the salon.Quality verticle HP will blow your mind.And I did not know this till I got mine.Oh back to the njoyer thread.

[Island Cove]

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[Drew]

like I said. You don't know what you are talking about.

it is THE STAFF that makes the unit popular or not.

THE STAFF ONLY

Any salon with a good bed not being popular is because the staff doesn't push it.

The novelty of a better tan doesn't ever wear off.

[Drew]

I don't care if your stand up vhr is nice or not. It is claustrophobic.

The CAGE is the inside...but even with acrylics....it is not anywhere like the experience of a stand up hp unit. (excluding hollywood tans junk and old tansees boxes.)

[The Freshness]

Originally Posted by Drew

First off...why do you have your 48 lamp vhr priced so damn LOW!!!???

That alone makes me wonder ...

It's a ProSun Delta 180 standup...does that explain why?! No really though, when I naively bought the machine it was only a 10 minute session with extra long combi lamps. I charged $16 for walk-in then. Everyone tried the standup but went back to my small 15 min VHR beds for a less expensive price and an at least equivalent tan. It wasn't enough time nor enough power for extra long lamps. Since then the standup has been re-rated for 12 minutes and I switched to to Cosmolux VHRTT 71 lamps. Tans much better now. So, yes, I could probably bump up my walkin and session price for the standup. Thanks.

[The Freshness]

Originally Posted by The Freshness

My question is...do think it would make sense to get rid of one of my 100W base beds and add the Njoy? What type of walkin cost could I command with this unit?

Feedback appreciated....

Well, back to my orignal post. I'm still torn on which bed to get to add another level to my store. I tanned on the Njoy Mattress for a 20 minute session last week and the results were great. I'm somewhat fairskinned and liked the fact that I didn't have to worry about burning, which I can't do on the Njoy Mix.

Recently I saw the Matrix L18ER and it makes me think twice about the Njoy. It looks awesome, 360 degrees, and would fit my size and electrical requirements (3 phase 50AMP)

So here's my pluses and minuses,

NJOY Mattress
+ Great Price. Around $12000
+ True HP. Adapts to all skin types
+ I got good color from it
+ Comfortable
- Longer 20-30 min session
- Semi ugly green color
- People will have to flip over

Njoy Mix
+ Shorter session time than mattress (15min)
+ Keeps UVB instant red people happy
+ Good price, a bit more than the mattress
- People will still have to flip over (they say you don't, but you do!)
- Semi ugly green color
- Can't advertise as true HP

Matrix L18ER
+ 360 degree HP
+ Absolutely beautiful
+ Could get more $$ per session
+ Would be the best HP bed in town
- Double in price from Njoy. It's around $25+

Keep in mind I have a very limited if not absent HP market around me. There's one 360 unit about 5 miles away at a tiny, non-prominent salon. Maybe I should just get the Mattress to enter the HP market and see what the response is. I can always get a bigger unit later. I'm done rambling...

[Island Cove]

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[solarmeter®]

It's because they feel like they can "escape" easier when standing (bolt out the door on the fly).... wheras when lying down in a "coffin-like" environment, any fast escape if panic starts would be a bitch.

[Drew]

Cove, you are still wrong. And Steve has a point....I'll give him that.
That tanning to relax line is garbage. It is a way to rationalize harmful behaviour. Its what smokers say too.

Why are the 10 and 12 min beds WAY more popular now than a 30 min bed. Answer that smart muffin.

And for the Pro Sun girl. VHRTT are still krap.

If they make them...put in just 10 Sig HP lamps in the top...or 10 Supra Filtered Sunlights...
Vhr TT are NOT ALL THAT! even a Sig Plus is better but try the two I mentioned.

[Island Cove]

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[uv2021]

Well as you know with HP some people can have a unit and just not shown how to sell or maintain it.Your competitor who has one came onto this board once and said his saturn was running at 208.....well guess what? at 208 it ain't happening.The company who sold this person the saturn doesn't have a good track record with them up here.I used one in Montreal it metered 70-80 at the glass.The meter should be jumping 200 at the glass,meybey that one was at 208 as well.Well that company no longer sells saturns in Canada.they had also sold them to people who charge 9 bucks a tan on it.That is pathetic!In season mine was doing 15-30 tans a day at a mininum of 22$. One just went into western Canada and is doing great along mattress HP beds at 22-25$ a session.3 more are going in soon.I will keep you posted.


You are not standing while using this unit ...you are suspended...caught in a tractor beam,you don't need your legs...you are in the transporter on the Starship Enterprise.Mine is 5 minutes from the airport in T.O. mention this post for a half price tan on mine.

[Miraclesun]

Most of the salon's we sell to. The owners use to say the same thing about standing. All they need to do is sell the first one to a customer, and let them "Experience" it for themselves. I tell my sales staff to use the word Experience, it works. It's not just a tan, It's an Experience.....

Al

[Brian Oshman]

Back on topic.

Freshness,

You are torn between the base bed and the N'joy mix. It's a no brainer. Don't get too hung up on the whole "well it's not true HP" bull$h!t. Get the mix and make more money with that room.

15 min. with the N'joy mix will bring in more money then a 15 min. base bed. Let's see, 8 bucks for a base tan in 15 min. or 30 bucks for an HP tan in 15 min. Where's the confusion?

This apparently fits your budget, power, and space reqirements to squeeze out as much revenue from your situation.

[SRT]

I've had 3 salons and all three had the Matrix V28 (verticle HP) and it's always been the most used in all salons. One salon had the V28 as well as the L33 (Matrix 360 HP) and it was close but V28 was still most popular. The other salon had the L58 (Matrix LP laydown) as well as the V28 and the the V28 had double the useage of the L58. My current salon has the V28, UWE S-Class, and a UWE Sunboard (HP). The SunBoard and S Class combined do about as many sessions combined as the V28 does on it's own. Pricing is not the issue as all sessions are priced the same in all equipment.

[Isltan]

Question, I think you MUST turn over in the NJOY combo because of the position of the lamps on top, correct, only one row of lights, none on the back side of unit?? Otherwise only one side of your body would tan. I spoke with the rep about this and this is why we did not get this unit. Yes, tan on back with VHR but still you must turn..

[Brian Oshman]

Originally Posted by Isltan

Question, I think you MUST turn over in the NJOY combo because of the position of the lamps on top, correct, only one row of lights, none on the back side of unit?? Otherwise only one side of your body would tan. I spoke with the rep about this and this is why we did not get this unit. Yes, tan on back with VHR but still you must turn..

You can flip to the other end of the bed too instead of laying face down.

[Isltan]

Do folks really want to do this, that is the question...

[Brian Oshman]

Mattress HP has always been like that so this is nothing new. It really isn't that much of a hassle. The alarm beeps and you flip.