ok guys - need your advice

[shelleytn1]

my competition has the magic -

we are looking to get something better or at least on the same playing field without sacrificing quality. any ideas at what we should be looking at specifically when we get to nashville?

we have a meeting set up to look at the ergoline opensun? on firday - opinions?
let 'er rip.

[Brian Oshman]

Look at the Leonardo in the Miracle Sun booth. It will be right up front when you walk in.

[shelleytn1]

will do - thanks brian

[Island Cove]

Sportarredo will be right beside designer skin booth off to the right. THe mastersun 360 should be something to at least look at. Find me and I'll take you to a salon in Nashville to try it out. So you can see for yourself.

I'll be at the booth and ask for Rob.

[shelleytn1]

i think i have your cell # Rob if i don't run into you at the booth

just entered your # into my cell

[Glowtanning530]

Matrix has always been my dream hp

[EliteMike]

Blah, just get the new magic in a different color, touch screen, oh soo sweet.


Better yet, buy mine, I want a different color

[Saturn Boy]

I'd go with the Leonardo too. I'm partial because I work with Miracle Sun, but I do have a Saturn in my salon. The Leo is a lay down version of the Saturn; and it seems like a better fit for an upgrade bed, IMHO. (I'm comparing to the 2004-2007 Magic). I havent tried, or even seen, the NEW Magic. But the vertical lamps, with parabolic reflectors, will put out almost double the output of a conventional horizontal high pressure lamp. The Magic always seemed like a pain to maintain and keep clean. It also has had a lot of problems with underperformance on the facials, and problems with circuit boards. Miracle Sun's line NORMALLY is "Set it and Forget it". I do almost 100% of the technical support for the Saturn... and I very seldom receive calls (unless the salon owner tried to save a buck and installed it themselves). The part I like most is that you can relamp in less than 20 minutes, and clean all filter glasses in less than 30 minutes. I don't think its the BEST looking unit on the market, ( I actually like the MasterSun's looks the best).

[sunsally]

Originally Posted by shelleytn1

my competition has the magic -

we are looking to get something better or at least on the same playing field without sacrificing quality. any ideas at what we should be looking at specifically when we get to nashville?

we have a meeting set up to look at the ergoline opensun? on firday - opinions?
let 'er rip.

Do you have a budget in mind?

What else is in your salon?

If they have the Magic - you want to go with 360 also. Other than that, your choices are fairly wide open. I'd consider the Ergoline 1050, Sport. Mastersun, Magic, Iso Italia Matrix and Tan America Solarix. Probably the Leonardo too -- don't know anything about it.

If you want to save 10-15K, I'd buy one of the Matrix 360's Highline repo'd. 1200 hours on the bed, customers will never know new vs. used and you lop 25-35% off the price of new.

Just depends what your situation is.

[EliteMike]

The Magic always seemed like a pain to maintain and keep clean.

I can vouch for this already. This machine has been the biggest PITA ever, but its soo freakin awesome!

[Brian Oshman]

Originally Posted by EliteMike

I can vouch for this already. This machine has been the biggest PITA ever, but its soo freakin awesome!

All HP is a pain in the a$$! It doesn't matter who makes it.

It is expensive to run, maintain, and purchase. It is nothing like a VHR bed. It will cost alot to relamp and will need constant attention to keep running at peak performance. If you cannot do these things yourself, you will be paying someone to do it for you.

This is why you cannot whore it out for 15 dollar sessions.

[Natureboy]

"This is why you cannot whore it out for 15 dollar sessions."

Dam straight!

[shelleytn1]

thank you to all - i will be spending alot of time on the showroom floor - and doing tons of research -
we do need to add HP - everyone must have it in their salons - we should have gotten it 3 years ago - BUT we got the mystic instead - SO - with that hard lesson learned - it is paid off and time to go shopping for some really fun stuff!

[EliteMike]

"everyone must have it in their salons"

don't think like that, everyone should, but some areas won't demand the session cost

[shelleytn1]

^true - i agree - i wasn't thinking on that kind of a scale. more in terms of what my situation demands.

however - everyone in my area must have it in their salons - they do - i don't.... THAT is about to change

[certan]

All HP is a pain in the a$$! It doesn't matter who makes it.


Other than cleaning and relamping my Tanses THP-24 I have'nt had to touch it in 3 years. Not to mention it only takes 30 minutes to clean and relamp.

If you want a High Pressure bed that will out preform the magic go with the Entropy 360 - 10 min. sess. 46 - 1000 watt lamps with a single metalic filter and parabolic glass reflectors give the output of a 2500 watt lamp.

Keep in mind if you want the best you have to pay for the best and it isn't cheap.

If you wanna save a couple of bucks you can go with its little brother the Convex. If you upgrade from the alluminum parabolic reflectors to the Glass and run it at the propper voltage it will get you pretty close to the output of the Entropy but at a smaller price tag.

Just my 2 cents!

Good Luck

[EliteMike]

I'll chime in with Brian's response ahead of time

^^^^DEER COOKER!!^^^^

[certan]

I forget Mike... How long have you been in this business again??

Your experience with High Pressure equipment comes from all the different beds you have used and had in your salon over how many years?

[EliteMike]

we had this discussion in other threads already!

[certan]

Oh thats right all you know is the Magic..

Well I guess we should all listen to you and join the rest of the sheep. baahhahhahaa

Maybee I should start posting stupid statements like deer cooker everytime someone post about the magic. Then I would be cool like the rest of you. baaahhahaha