New Magic and SunSport....

[EliteMike]

don't buy used unless YOU have fully seen, tested and inspected the machine. My problem wasn't as bad as others but it did cost me lots of money in what was left of my peak season.

[Island Cove]

Why is it that so many people think that a smaller population won't support HP? On that thought, why does everyone who does not have HP think their clients will never pay for it? Let me tell you, I have 3 HP units in my small town of only 12,000 low income level also, and they are booked solid in busy season and very busy even in slow season. Now my #2 salon is in a bigger population, but would still be considered small to most of you, 69,000 with 3 other salons to compete with, yet still, my 2 hp units in that salon were booked solid during busy season and I just opened it in March. Now my 3rd salon has 1 hp unit in a city with population over 200,000. And in very high income level area (multi million dollar homes) and it is used the least.

I'm so tired of hearing "it will never work in my small town" or "my customers would never pay that"

Oh yes they will. Give them more credit. Just because your in a small town doesn't mean they don't want the best there is also.

[uv2021]

The reason that your small town has a "low income" is the the # 1 crop in BC....the growers don't tend to declare their income.

[solarmeter®]

Kinda like poppies in Afghanistan, eh?

Declared income: Poverty level.
Actual income: Donald Trump $

[uv2021]

Hey ,elite Mike .Perhaps you forgot you bought the bed used from people othor than Tan Tech.That you were sent a circut board at no charge FROM Tan Tech.The phone support wich was free from Tan Tech on evenings and weekends.I have dealt with this company for a long time ,12 years .And I know alot of their clients.Yes there is the odd hickup.It especially happens when you are dealing with cutting edge beds wich everyone wants YESTERDAY !


The othor thing you seem to forget is the majority of your posting in respect to your Magic is that you and your staff did not seem to beleive in HP.You seem to have possesed the "people around here won't pay that much for a tan" attitude.

I can remember replying to your post and telling you to ban your staff from all beds except the Magic.Did you ever do that?

So now that you are in the "negative" mode that slow seaon puts rookies and vetrans alike ...you blame the people who tried to help you.

Springbok,you sound like a broken record.The "nice guy" at Tan Tech that you refer to has a name.Tim Luff. You make it sound as if you were to name Tim he would lose his job..what a crock of S##T .everyone at tan Tech is nice.Not just Tim.From some of your post I would say that you must be drunk when you do them.I especially like the one where solarmeter ask you about where you went for 3 hrs 13 minutes.

Great reply.I was at the after hours club...and the girls came home with me.So you bring "girls" home from the after hours club and you take them over to your computer and show them tan today!!!!!!!

I was persenally very aware of the ballast problem wich occured on the final run of the 2021.I was responsible for 4 of those beds.No fun having to change all of those ballasts.I find it amazing that every one of those final 20 beds had the problems fixed except yours when it was only an hour away.I have a hard time beleiving that.As a matter of a fact Tim called you up the othor day to ask you what your problem was .Don't you think it is about time for a pubic apology?

What many of you rookies and vetrans alike have to remember is that Patryck ,Pete ,Paris ,Roman and Tim did for this business was to be the first to bring 30 k plus beds to the market and prove to you and the public that there was great value in spending 30 plus k on a bed and 30 plus $ on a session. Ask yourselves,those of you smart enough to be involved with HP ,where would your business be without it?

So the original topic was the new Magic and Sunsport.If you want to create a slam Tan Tech start your own f#$%^ng topic!!!!!

These are great beds sold by a great company .

Tan Tech \Sun Italia also sell the Saturn and the Leonardo right thru the USA and Canada.On these beds you also have a choice of dealing with Miracle Sun in the US.

Real pro pics of both the Platinum and the Magic will be done next week.

[northtanman]

island cove...
I do have high pressure now...i was only saying i'd buy used to save half the value of new...and in a small town where we don;t have the volumes of clients to draw from as with bigger cities...keeping the upfront cost down, just makes good business sence to me. Buying a relatively new HP for half the cost of new...buying a great used one...one thats recommended by other salon owners as reliable...is what i'm talking about.
Sorry i was misleading about HP not being strong in small communities. It is for sure! I'm just trying to keep the costs down...and add a 360. i have an mattress omega now and a combi ergo 650...both are busy and do a great job!

[northtanman]

Originally Posted by EliteMike

don't buy used unless YOU have fully seen, tested and inspected the machine. My problem wasn't as bad as others but it did cost me lots of money in what was left of my peak season.

I try not to complain, but the situation could have been handled much different. Lots of people made money off of my purchase, and the only ones to stick their hand out to help were the ones that shouldn't. And that was Tan & Health supply. I kept getting the same answer from patryk and mathias, you must have your phases wrong.

Then the hot column, bed was unusable without mug 6 really. I know HP is hot, but to the point the person can't tolerate it. Yeah, I want to pay 30 a session for that.

Without reading back thru 4 pages...what was your problem?
Ballasts too?

[Drew]

What many of you rookies and vetrans alike have to remember is that Patryck ,Pete ,Paris ,Roman and Tim did for this business was to be the first to bring 30 k plus beds to the market and prove to you and the public that there was great value in spending 30 plus k on a bed and 30 plus $ on a session. Ask yourselves,those of you smart enough to be involved with HP ,where would your business be without it?

None of these idiots even knows the history or the pain and strugles this small company has been through, even though the ENTIRE industry owes it's collective ASS to 3 people in particular.

Numbers 1 and 2. Patryk Reczek and Pete Mills. Brought and successfully sold over 1000 Ultrabronz 818's from 1994-1997. PROVING that customers will pay for top level beds and salons that invest in them will reap big rewards for their investment.
Told by ALL in this industry that High Pressure will NOT sell in USA and NO BED will ever sell for over 15k. Took HUGE risk and MOVED to USA to make this happen.

Number 3. Leif Vasstrom Brought the first VHR lie down bed to mass market. The ORBIT. Debuted in VEGAS in 1994 as a 36 lamp rainbow colored bed. But without Leif and his Orbit thumping pulpit..selling a few thousand VHR units and proving that the "Medium Pressure" (please stop with this made up, WRONG, term) market and the $12-$24 price points that they command are in demand by salons and salon customers, 75% of all tanning beds today wouldn't be sold.

JK wasn't even selling tanning beds in the USA in 1994. They had given up in the late 80's and gone home to the Fatherland.

Bottom line, The New Magic which is sold by Sun Italia and Patryk Reczek is by far the Best High End High Pressure unit on the Market.

Is it perfect? No. But it has about DOUBLE the output of a Matrix.
It has 50% more output than an Ergoline 1050.
It is the ONLY HP bed that is adjustable for BOTH the customer in the bed, and the Salon for lamp life and performance.

When you are charging 40$ for a single tan and 3 tans for 99.95.
You can feel very secure when you own this bed that the customers will get their moneys worth.

Thank you Patryk for 13 years of fantastic customer support. For taking phone calls at home on weekends and hollidays to answer questions. For KNOWING the answers more than any other service tech in the country. And for teaching both me and this industry how to sell and educate the US population on professional tanning beds and almost singlehandedly dragging the US tanning market kicking and screaming from the 24 lamp high uv-b 80's into the modern era of tanning beds that actually tan. Thanks.

Springbag says thanks too, because without you patryk, he wouldn't have a successful tanning salon that is full of High pressure tanning beds, and vhr tanning beds. He is kissing your ass daily in his dreams every time he goes to the bank that you moved here from England 14 years ago.

P.S. Learn how to work on your beds. Have 5.0 meters and 7.0 meters to check them. Use the Supra Lamps in your beds that you want to WOW customers with. Keep filters clean. HAVE ENOUGH MAKE UP AIR. (Magic needs air volume!!)







Even Mystic Tan needed these two men in order to make their price point of 30k a booth work based on return on investment rather than what the booth costs to make.

[springboktanning]

UV 2021; I did not mention Tims name because i was worried he would get into trouble with the company he works for. I stand behind my previous postings which i copied and will paste it;

When you spend 54k of your hard earned money on new equipment which i did from this company called Tantech in Southern Cal, ((and i allegedly think they go by the name of SunItalia and are located in vegas)) that doesnt work like it should for about 3 years, and you have a frustrating time getting the selling party to make your equipment perform like it should, and show very little interest after changing parts twice in the beginning which didnt solve the problem,and having a hard time getting the company to return your calls or even send a tech when THEYare a hour and a half drive, it is a very bad situation for you and your clients. My readings averaged between 60-70 on solarmeters 5.0 at the hp lamp and i had to resort to changing lamps at 150-200hrs. i have not come online about this situation for obvious fear the situation could get worse. The beds were both finally fixed about +/_20 something months. Times change quick and we have huge need for a true 360 hp, so unfortunately i am gonna have to sell the beds now that they are finally working.
I dont know you uv 2021, and i dont expect everyone to believe my experience with TanTech.

[EliteMike]

UV, I got my bed running right and all my employees beleive in it now. It was very difficult to get this to happen when the machine literally felt like it was going to melt your skin. Mug 6 fixed that. It is hard to eliminate a bad taste in your mouth once it happens. Myself I didn't want to go back in the machine.

My problem was only circuit boards. The person that sold the bed was getting in the newest magic at the time. HIs board in his brand new bed was faulty, so they took the old working one out of mine and gave it to him. I received a brand new board.

Patryk and Mathias were directly involved in the sell and purchase of this bed. I think Mathias may have actually dissassembled this bed as he did the new install. Bed was supposed to be in perfect shape according to Patryk and those involved....When the bed arrived to Tan&Health, it was not in perfect shape, This bed had to be spotless because it was being leased as a showroom demo bed. So it had to look brand new. Lots of things needed to be repainted a few column acrylics needed to be replaced. Parts were delayed. I was making very expensive lease payments on a bed that was supposed to be ready on or around grand opening. It turned out to be over 2 months late. Not completely in patryk's hands, I understood that. My biggest grip was that I knew what I was doing with the bed, They had me going in circles, insisting it must have been the way we wired it. They didn't want to come out here without being paid, understandable. As someone with a very strong technical background, if you know the thing was working before you made a change "a new board", that would be the first thing I'd assume to be bad.

Come to think about, I'm still waiting on a part or 2 for it. Gotta call T&H on that one...

I love the bed, I really do, I appreciated patyrk's help. They did resolve the problem just not as quick as I should have. I don't doubt the power of this bed. It has been reliable for the most part. There is only 100 hours on it though.

My formostar basically came from him, so it's not like i won't do business with him again. He is quick to respond yes, but customer service is only good if the problem gets resolved in a timely manner. You think I could afford to have a $1400 lease on a bed that was sitting here broke or delayed after I was already majorly delayed with opening the place? That is probably where I got mostly annoyed. Unfortunately this was the last link in the chain.

Bed runs great minus the few issues I still have, clients love it, I'm starting to make money on it.

Would I consider another one, yes, but only brand new.

I'm trying not to contradict myself, but I probably did.

I spent a lot of time on the phone with Patryk, debugging and just BS'in. He's a great guy, it was just the events of my situation that left me a little sour. Jones had magic problems too, I followed that situation on here and just prayed it didn't happen to me......

[Miraclesun]

Just for the record. Sun Italia/Tantech can only sell Miracle Sun equipment in territories that are not exclusive. They are still one of my distributors. When they want a Saturn, or Leonardo they will have to buy from me directly. I did make a one time special deal for them to buy their last 7 units directly. That container should be arriving shortly.

[Drew]

Don't even start with Shari Jones. Great Girl in some ways but she could get a bar of gold at Christmastime and complain it is too heavy. Sheesh.

[solarmeter®]

I especially like the one where solarmeter ask you about where you went for 3 hrs 13 minutes.

Great reply. I was at the after hours club...and the girls came home with me. So you bring "girls" home from the after hours club and you take them over to your computer and show them tan today!!!!!!!

Hardy-har.... I was wondering the same thing about SpringBloke. BTW - 2:47am is not considered after hours any more - unless you're living in the 80's. They're all open till ~4am around here now days.

Drew: Good history-lesson post.

Al: So do you sell Magics too, or not? If so, where? East of the Mississipi?

[Miraclesun]

Yes I could sell Magic's. But of course it works both ways, I would have to buy from Tantech/Sun Italia.

Al

[BIG AL]

Originally Posted by Din

That is a nice Ron Fellows edition Corvette but it doesn't look as good as a regular Corvette. I guess he choose white because thats what he sees in Canada most of the year. Try this one out for size.




Which one stands out and which one justs sits there. The red one is just a snapshot not a pro photograph. Only 5.9% of the 2007 Corvettes were bought in white, the lowest number of any color.

[solarmeter®]

[W8INLINE]

so if only 5% of all vettes sold are white, wouldn't a white vette stand out when surrounded by hundreds of red ones?

and if all beds in the salon were red wouldnt a white Magic stand out?

Granted most base beds are white, so in that case I would preffer the blue magic....

but....get my drift?

[EliteMike]

who cares how many are red, give me something differnt.

[BIG AL]

Yeah, it would stand out in all the red ones, but not because it looks better but because it looks plain. Who wants a Corvette that is the same color as your plumber's truck. We have gotten off the subject of the new Magic but the analogy is still the same.

[Jones]

David,
Thanks !!!
I expect the level BEST from myself and am prepared to give it daily...that then makes me expect the best from everyone I come in contact with...I set my sights high...that's just how I am...I look up and everyone looks up with me!

Originally Posted by Drew

Don't even start with Shari Jones. Great Girl in some ways but she could get a bar of gold at Christmastime and complain it is too heavy. Sheesh.