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Old 14th January 2008, 09:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Best Used HP 360?

Would you say: Magic, #1 for a USED newer model best?
#2? Matrix Isotalia
#3? Mastersun

And do you think 16k to low 20k??? Seems the used market is going flat...so a buyers market.
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Old 14th January 2008, 09:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Best Used HP 360?

I think you'll find HP beds range in the 16-18k mark. If it's a very slightly used Matrix or Magic...i'd say 20k-22k.

I think you pretty much named the top HP beds that i would consider used at that pricepoint.

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Old 14th January 2008, 09:53 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Do you know how hard it is to find the top 360 hP units used for under $20k is?
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Old 14th January 2008, 10:01 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The older the Magic, the more things you needed to upgrade.

Mastersun has had no upgrades needed.
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Old 14th January 2008, 10:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
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The older the Magic, the more things you needed to upgrade.

Mastersun has had no upgrades needed.
thanks rob, thats why i mentioned "newer model" as i was aware of the needs...or upgrades needed.
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^^I can vouch for that. I have a major list of things I want to upgrade if the season is good. If I don't have the return I'm looking for on the magic this season, it may be up for sale....
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Old 15th January 2008, 12:49 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Do you know how hard it is to find the top 360 hP units used for under $20k is?
Highline had two Matrix L33, low hours, that I sold for 25K each recently.

If you want below 20K, you are looking at the "original model" Matrix (pre 2003 I think) - white as opposed to the grey/black. Maybe electric lift. Not a bad unit at all. Just not quite as good as the more recent version.

There have been two used Mastersuns here recently, one of which I leased for the buyer. Again - close to 25K

I was in my salon for an hour today and sold yet another $350 package on the Matrix. Had 4 customers on it back-to-back-to-back-to-back.

I paid 40K+ new -- and not a single regret even at that price point.

Now 35K new and 25K or just less used? No brainer to me!

If you don't want to spend that kind of money, then start with some of the many older mattress HP units here for 7K and less. Start educating clients about the differences in HP tanning, make some money from it and THEN shell out the money for full 360!
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Old 15th January 2008, 07:19 AM   #8 (permalink)
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The older the Magic, the more things you needed to upgrade.
The only 'upgrades' to the first beds installed are MUG 6 glass and the foot fan.

Yes newer models may have misters, but do not effect the output of the bed at all.

There were other changes with facial lamp and bench wattage, but the original version works quite well, thank you.
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i think Isoitalia just launched a small hp bed called the L18. it only needs a 8 by 8 room, i think the price point was good.i received a flyer in the mail but i lost the flyer.I spoke to uri who is a Matrix distributor and he told me the bed was just launched, and that it had the same new er reflctor tecnology that the matrix L33 er has. I was thinking of getting the L18 in addition to the 2 new matrix L33 er i just purchased, because the L18 HP i could fit in my VHR rooms but i decided i would wait a few months so i can test the bed , and see how if i like the look. iam gonna go surf online now and see if i can find specs and picture of the new L18 HP bed and ill post the pics if i find a pic soon.
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We leased the used Mastersun that Sunsally was talking about and it has been nothing but a "ching ching" machine for us !! Real money maker with the great results and not to mention the WOW factor of the bed itself. The only issue we have had with it was a wiring issue on the buck booster ( thanks Steve Beason) Ha Ha !!!
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Old 15th January 2008, 11:20 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Convex or a Entropy but I doubt you will find anybody who has one that wants to get rid of it.
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Old 15th January 2008, 09:51 PM   #12 (permalink)
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ive found some pics of the new matrix hp L18-er, and ill post them soon .funny thing is after looking for pictures i realized the L18 has a smaller footprint than my UWE Silver Bullets, and i might wanna add it alater stage and sell one of my UWE beds. Its the 1st HP ive seen with a small enough footprint that it would work for me. i think the footprint is 42 by 83. i will try and post pics later or tomorrow.
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Old 15th January 2008, 10:06 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Sounds interesting, but i don't have a problem for space...and i like HUGE...bigger is better? is'nt it? or only in texas?
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Old 16th January 2008, 12:34 AM   #14 (permalink)
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sparky, dont' forget the makeshift support for the acrylic.

You know, we realy wanted a brand new HP unit to start with. I was looking at the Magic, then the KIng, but couldn't get leasing for it, so I bought an ultrabronze 818 for $2500 USD. I'm glad now, I had time to get my feet wet with HP, learn how it works and then learned what i realy wanted in a 360 HP, I ended up with the Mastersun. Glad now I was forced to wait. I still have the 818, plus an 812 and bought another 818 for my newer salon because even though its not so pretty, it sure works good.
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DIMENSIONS ARE 43 BY 86 AND INCLUDES A 10 " EXHAUST AT REAR. tANTIME IS 14 MIN AND USES THE NEW ER TECHNOLOGY.NOT SURE ON PRICE. I FOUND 2 PICS



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Old 16th January 2008, 08:19 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Can't knock the looks, but does it only have 3 banks of lamps? Hence the 18? Like 3 banks of 6 lamps?
Thanks for the pictures.
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Old 16th January 2008, 01:16 PM   #17 (permalink)
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yes three banks, but the bottom bank rocks back and forth for more tanning coverage
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Old 16th January 2008, 01:54 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Kinda like a high pressure mystic
New terminology to "it rocks"
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Old 17th January 2008, 01:22 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Checked into it a few months ago, price is $25k-ish. Can run on 3 phase 50 amp breaker according to distributor.
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Would you say: Magic, #1 for a USED newer model best?
#2? Matrix Isotalia
#3? Mastersun

And do you think 16k to low 20k??? Seems the used market is going flat...so a buyers market.
I have sold all of the above used beds recently between 15-17k.

I do have 1 Magic left to sell - it is a 2004 (no mug6) for 16k. Located in Louisville, KY.
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