Can you help me with my Magic 636

[Din]

Certan....i changed my lamps out on the King at 1200 hours and was getting same meter readings throughout those hours.

[certan]

Good For You

[Din]

HAHAHAHA.......thanks.

[Rob]

Usually when a salon owner starts selling units, its because they ahve fallen in love with the units themselves. Us salon owners know what we need and what works.

Certan loves his Tanses units, I love my Sportarredo units.

but for the most part it is not the people that own the Magics that have the negitive things so say about them, it is the other bed salesmen trying to compete against the Magic.

I have never said anything negative about the magic. I think the magic is a great unit when it is working and after all the upgrades.

[certan]

Im not knocking the king or the Magic.. Theres no doubt their good beds...

I just get annoyed reading these post sometimes

Like I said earlier it reminds me of Mystic Tan. Everybody always wanted to say it was the best spray booth on the market and nothing else will compare..

I would put my Magic tan 3000 against the mystic anyday and now with the versa spa I dont see why anybody would even consider getting a mystic.

Theres lots of bullshit artist out there in bed sales..

If there wasnt nobody would have ever bought ETS or puretan or other junk like that..

[FIT]

Ok - here's a dumb question for this thread that has gone off track. I have a 2003 Matrix. It gets hot at the waist. Is there a Mug6 equivalent for the Matrix?

Most people love the bed but some people get intimidated by the Matrix and I can't get them back in it. Any suggestions?

[LavaTroy]

Certan, if you are bored with reading the 636 posts then don't open them. There are plenty others that you could have chosen to read.

However, I do agree that my Magic Tan 3000 out perfoms they mystic anyday.

And, I used to have some Puretan beds that I had for about 6 years and never had a single problem with any of them. I don't think they are in the same category as ETS.

[certan]

Ya puretan makes great beds thats why they tucked their tales between their legs and hit the road with everybody's money!!

[BIG AL]

As far as the Magic, the M-ug 6 glass is the biggest improvement. The Magic was a toasty bed without it. There are some differences
in the lamps as far as watts. I have a 06 and 07 model and it has
2000 watt facials. I think the older ones have 1000 watt facials. The newer ones have body fans at the end of the bed and the older ones have the control pod in the middle of the bed compared
to the right side of the bed. The 06 models also have misters and aroma therapy.

The biggest difference is the M-ug 6 glass. It turns the bed from a good bed to a great bed. The adjustibility of the bed is what makes the Magic the best HP bed out there as far as I am concerned. The sheer power and adjustibility is a combination
that no other bed has.

Certan, as far as Puretan is concerned, don't lump the bed in with
the last management of the company. The last management of the company was bad. When Roger sold the company it went downhill fast. I have Puretan beds in one of my salons and they do nothing but tan. I have had some of them since 2000 and the only
thing I have had to replace are 2 relays and I did over 15000
sessions on those beds last year. I wouldn't buy ETS beds if they were the last beds made. Looks like you are 0 for 2 today.

[certan]

Ive owned puretan beds too.. I didnt realy have alot of problems with them either other than the fact that they didnt tan very well and I had little 24 lamp montego bay bed boasting hirer meter readings

[BIG AL]

Most people that own them will tell you that they tan very well. They just are not pretty with all the plastic that the new beds have.

[Saturn Boy]

Originally Posted by certan

Ive been in this business a long time so now when I decide on whats the best bed for me and my salon its not just based on looks or meter readings.

Heres why I like the Tanses beds so much better.

-- 500 watt lamps meter at 110 with 600hrs on them thats better than my SunSport and Chronos and they use 1000 & 1500W lamps
-- With proper cooling you will get 800-1,000 hrs off your lamps
-- 10 min. session means more sess. per day which means more $$
-- Install the bed in about 2 hours
-- Clean and relamp in 30 minutes
-- No cobalts to break
-- Single metalic filter (No cobalts)
-- Parabolic Reflectors
-- 70 amp single phase mattress, 100 amp single phase 360
-- 500W lamp + Reflectors and Single Filters means higher output and less heat
-- No computer or circuit boards (simple to install and work on)
-- All powder coated steel, Aluminum and Stainless Steel
-- No lift motors to replace, No circuit boards to replace, No touch pads to replace
-- Simple design and incredible results these are the things I look for in a bed

I've got to agree with you, from an installers point of view in regards to setup and maintenance... the Magic CAN take forever to install. Cleaning filter glasses and relamping also takes a few hours (at least). It's a good unit to tan in... but it's not my favorite unit on the market either. From a salon owner's point of view, it definitely has its benefits b/c of longer lamp life. Ask Nature Boy, he's posted that he gets over 1,200 hours on his lamps. As far as just tanning, I'd prefer the SATURN . Call me bias, b/c I am.

[BIG AL]

Another bed salesman.

It may be harder to install a Magic than other beds but I never bought a bed with how hard it was for the installer on my mind.

Are there any ETS salesman out there. I want to hear about how the Velocity is the best HP bed.

[Miraclesun]

I am a salesman, I say buy a Leonardo, but I won't dare say there isn't any used Leonardo's out there, because Island will find them. hahaha

Lets clear up the Saturn readings. Just tested the new 2008, the Solarmeter 5.0 on the body reads 130, over the face 155. The 6.0 UVB meter was 1.6. This cannot be compared to a VHR unit, unless there is one out there that reads over 100 milliwatts of UVA.

[BIG AL]

Hey, Medium Al. How is everything going? If I am wrong about the Saturn, I am sorry. I was told that the Saturn was a high uvb standup.

[Brian Oshman]

Nobody understands output. I read so much how mw/cm² B is confused with % B and what the correlation between the two are as compared to overall output.

%B number is bull$h!t. It means nothing. stop comparing %B to real world output as everyone thinks that the percent B means the bed will be exactly the same if it is a 2500 watt junker base bed or a 36,000 watt guzzler on steroids.

"Oh, My beds are 6% UVB reddening beds", Dumba$$es!!!

[Island Cove]

Big Al, Everyone always touts the benifits of the longer lamp life, but when you take EVERYTHING into acount, it probably costs the same and profits the same between each unit. Here are the facts. Mastersun uses less power. less AC, requires a breaker 45 amps less, requires min smaller room size, does not require purchasing upgrade glass. I currently have 629 hours on Mastersun, and still going strong.

Not to mention how the acrylic is cooled so never hot spots, and air blows down on clients in 2 strips the whole length of the body for a very comfortable session. Very easy to clean, just a quarter turn on the bolts, and the columns hing open. My staff can clean this unit right to the glass in matter of minutes. I set up this unit in March and besides cleaning, have done nothing to it. I could leave for months on end and my staff would not have to worry about bumping up power to this unit. Plug it in and tan away. This is a very easy unit to use, Perfect unit for someone who does not wish to fiddle or have the know how. So my one Mastersun we got a mini "transformer" brian oshman will argue this with me. it looks and works exactly the same as an 818 transformer. you can open the side and adjust the tamps from 220-230-240. so if you realy wanted to, yes you can do similar to the magic. There is a salon in texas that just runs their unit at 220. New lamps, its almost too much at 230, almost want to drop it down to 220 for the first bit. My second Mastersun has the buck booster that brian oshman believes is what i'm referering to as a mini transformer. this buck booser I cannot play taps at all does not even look remotely the same.

[Natureboy]

What the f*ck is with everyone on here hijacking threads? Has to be the worst reading in a long time.

You are in big trouble Lava Troy buying a Magic not knowing anything about them (I have 3). I would recommend reading every post in a search about Magic's and try to sift though the "better bed" arguements between salespeople.

Other than that, either hire Brian or someone who can even help you over the phone. My biggest concern first off is if you even have enough electrical considering you don't know the size of your panels and what is left. Then if you are going to be able to exhaust the bed and cool it properly.

You really should have posted this BEFORE you bought the bed. But I guess your in for it no matter what now.

[LavaTroy]

I will do whatever is necessary to make this work. I am already aware that i need more air and it will be installed before this bed will be put to use. If you had a clue what I paid for this bed you wouldnt be saying that. Anyway, I already stated that I have to have another panel box installed. I am prepared to do whatever is necessary, I'm just here to find out what that is.

[Miraclesun]

PM Brian Oshman, work out a consulting, and install deal. Best investment you will ever make, besides the sweetheart deal you got on the Magic. Inquiring minds want to know? Unless you literally stole it. Then don't tell us...