lamp and glass change in magic

[EliteMike]

Gonna rip into the bed tonight to get it glassed right. I'll post my personal feedback and number change if any later tonight

[solarmeter®]

Do you have the proper clear glass? Hope so.

Can you borrow another local salon's 6.0 and/or 7.0 meters to take reading before and after your surgery? Those are what will change significantly.... not the 5.0 readings.

I'm an idiot

Not any more. You are now "edumucated".

[BIG AL]

There is someone out there that can dish it out but can not take it.
Island, didn't you basically call Brian a liar when you told him that no one got the readings he got on the Mastersun except him. That he must be doing something to manipulate the numbers and the very next day you stated that there must be something wrong with the lamps in your bed and those numbers where lower than what Brian posted. When you make an apology to Brian, maybe then we will **** off.

[solarmeter®]

The thing about the three meter readings that many folks just don't get... is that they are showing you distinctly different outputs of your beds.

Try to think of them like car gages:

Model 5.0: Your speedometer... browning rays.
Model 6.0: Your water temp... pinking rays.
Model 7.0: Your tachometer... burning rays.

Any car enthusiast would agree all 3 readings are needed. Just one will not reveal the overall operating conditions of your motor.

I forgot Model 6.4 D3 meter: That would be your oil pressure lol.

Don't let them "intimidate" you. This ain't rocket science or brain surgery. They actually complement each other.... and reveal the "full monty" of any bed when used together.

[RobertK]

That is the meter Island Cover better buy.....I think their pressure is a little high!

[solarmeter®]

I think their D3 "pressure" is a little low..... because they are not big fans of UVB. They don't ever want to burn anybody in a "full" session.... which is good. But they also don't seem to want to start off people at quarter or half sessions to build up their tolerance to UVR gradually. Go figure....

[superboy]

took these today

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[superboy]

1 more of the xtra sheet

[Brian Oshman]

The extra sheet works fine in the older units with 1000 watt center bottom column. The bed should have the lamp, purple Mug-6, performance clear. The order doesn't really matter with performance but if the clear glass is close to the lamp it will let out alot of visible light.

Get another piece of mug-6 to drop on top of the center column or you could also upgrade it with 400 watt ballasts and lamps to tone it down.

You could also recycle the crackled blue Italian glass and drop it on the center column but you lose the benifits of the mug-6 transmission doing that so tahe that blue crackled out back with a pellet gun and have some target practice.

UVC is absorbed by the lamp envelope. The clear glass absorbs most of the B.

[EliteMike]

well the bed seemed to be a little more comfortable with the glass installed properly. 5.0 readings were up a few points actually, 137-138 in the center.

on the cassette that has 3 pains. I still have the italian, clear then mug. I need to get 3 more sheets of MUG. I can't take the peices that are on top because they were not cut properly. Overall its not too hot there, but I think it would calm it down even more if all Italian glass was gone.

When we ordered back in the day, only 27 sheets were ordered. At this point I'll just say I was very very confused last June.

I do have supra lamps in. Unless I'm maxed out everywhere, I don't think I"m getting 165 on the bench.

Superboy, are you sure your bed is adjusting down? your phases could be wrong.

[John]

If the Magic is such an awesome bed why can't they make it right at the factory? I know it tans great, hell 36,000 watts better tan you. But why do these salon owners need to become Dr. Frankenstein to make it run right?

And why the love for Mug 6? It isn't anything new, been around for 15-20 years. I would be more impressed if they used an interference filter & lower wattage lamps to get the same results. Now I know it does decrease the heat, but it is still 36,000 watts, that heat is going somewhere.

[EliteMike]

John are you purposely trying to get Tammy going on this friendly Magic thread? LOL

These beds should not leave without MUG 6. Other than the heat, I don't see much of a difference between MUG and the italian glass, but I don't have meters.

My gripe with all 07 and below models would be the lack of a hinged acrylic. ALso, along the same line, the acrylics on the colums could be hinged as well. I'm not a fan of the end cap design.

[BIG AL]

John, you have to remember how this bed started out. It started out as a low uvb bed much like the Ultrabronz but not quite as low uvb. With the Italian glass it has uvb around 1% but a lot of heat. From what I understand some of the original owners thought the bed needed more uvb and that it was too hot, so the search was on to improve the bed and reach what the salon owners suggested. I don't have a clue as to why the mug 6 glass was chosen over other types other than it works. Could there be other types of glass that work as well? I guess there could be but what do I know about filters. The bed should come standard with the mug 6 glass, it makes the bed perform the best. Mike bought one of the early beds that did not have mug 6 so he has struggled a little with the bed. I have 2 Magics and once they were setup, I have done nothing to them other than clean and relamp.

I agree with you that if the Magic came with 650 watt plug in lamps and could put out what it does, it might just be the perfect HP bed.

[Island Cove]

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[BIG AL]

It's funny to us. Did you here the one where the Mastersun walks into a bar?

[John]

Big Al,
Correct I have tanned in both Versions of the Magic. The Mug6 does cut down on the IR heat & the added UVB makes for quite a faster tanning result. However the Mug6 glass, like any Blue Glass will Solarize at about 500 hrs & loses quite a bit of it's UV transmission. Which is were the adjustability of the lamps come in.

They should just throw a 600/800W lamp in there with an Interference filter & get the same output. No reason a bed a should be running at 100amps in 2008.

I'm sure you have all metered a Sungate Facial at 800W with an Interference filter. Yeah, it meters about 175 new. And it will stay well above 100 for at least 750 hrs.

[BIG AL]

John, I have not tanned in a Sungate. Are these filters different than the filters in a S-class because the facials in a S-class are the most intense facials I have ever tanned in. I did not like the experience at all.

[John]

Similar filters, however very different reflectors.

[EliteMike]

has ANYONE metered the 08 magic yet?

[BIG AL]

Are the Sungate facials as intense as the S-class? I hated my session in the S-class. My face felt like the flesh was peeling off. I couldn't imagine a whole bed made up like the facials in the S-class
You would need to have some whips and chains in your closet to enjoy the facials on the S-class.