Miracle Sun Leonardo Vs Matrix L28er

[Renaissance]

Ok HP Vets,

In the red corner we have the raw tanning power house of the Leonardo coming in at a whopping 24 000 watts of "tan your nuts off power!"

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This gorgeous slim blonde standing at... Oh wait, I meant to talk about the bed...just got a little distracted! Back to business! Versus the blue corner measuring in at a near 14 900 watt, new technolgy reflector and lamp set up, so called more efficient and higher output beauty!

Place your bets ladies and gentlemen...

Ding, Ding, Ding!!!

[W8INLINE]

I'll let you know when I see the model the leo uses on their ads

[Island Cove]

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[EliteMike]

Leo needs some new styling. Not a fan of the red. Really don't like the fan either.

The girl is sexy, which makes the matrix very sexy

[RobertK]

What about this fan?

[Din]

The Leo will outperform the Matrix.....and in your area, people want "tan your nuts off"*® technology of a VHR on roids......As for looks, finish and overall look, the new matrix may look nicer in some peoples eyes. But the old matrix is the real performer.

So if you're looking to get a Matrix.....you should be looking at 2003-2006 for your neck of the woods.

[Island Cove]

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[Island Cove]

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[danggirl]

The big ol fan of Logic Cam makes me a lil scared it looks like you can cut someone with it. Matrix is well built and looks like it will tan really good. Never tanning in either I can say but if it was just off looks..... Matrix. But my partner said its the other way around.

[Din]

But those same people didn't comment on the Leo being a good bed.....did they? I could care less who makes it and who sells it.

I always wanted a Matrix cuz it was a VHR on Roids....FAK High Pressure. It's about giving the customer what they want and making the most money possible doing it !!!

Also the fact of where Renaissance is and his market....he's in Tanning Salon Alley.....and needs a kick ass bed that will outperform any of his competitors beds.

He is not in a market where the King or Mastersun or Magic for that matter would be suitable.

I haven't seen anyone that despised the Matrix comment on the Leonardo as being a good or true HP anywhere, did i miss a thread?

Now lets keep this on topic and not a pissing match of which bed manufacturer is better.....cuz i really don't think anyone cares. I know i don't, neither does Renaissance. He just wants a bed that performs for his area. So lets keep this on topic.

if this becomes about Mastersun and Magic then really it's just a pissing match between sales people....you can keep that off the thread. Thanks.

[Natureboy]

Originally Posted by Island Cove

I find this quite hilarious! Everyone was againt the Matrix cause it was VHR on ROIDS. now cause the Leo is the same , its all good. Basicly what ever miracle sun sells is all good. lol. Now you say look to the older Matrix as a real performer, Now that matrix calmed them down so they wouldn't be VHR on Roids. make up your mind people.

Perhaps you did not say this Din, in the past, but most on here have. Looks like some people need to get their heads outa miracle suns ass. lol

Come on Tammy, buy a bed from the Cult and you can join us all. I know you want to.

The Leo is not the same. The Leo meters on a 5.0 at 120 new and a matrix is like 65? Big difference.

[Din]

The Matrix may look nice and stronger build.....i agree.....but if you want performance. The Leonardo is more aggressive and will win hands down.

Renaissance.........The Leonardo will be suitable for your area. But you can't go wrong with either

[EliteMike]

The Leo will be my next unit. My ditsy talked me into it. I'll wait a while though for improvements. I'm forced to wait anyways due to money! The bed repair guy tanned in one and was blown away with the color. I figure I need something for those Magic haters that want more kick

[W8INLINE]

Ok....Look at the pic of the Leonardo. The aclylic that you guys say looks flimsy is very thick. I don't know if you guys have seen the 2 poles supporting the acrylic in the center top and bottom of the acrylic. This bed is NOT flimsy. I have 250-300lb customers using this thing with no problems.

When I was installing the leonardo, I had removed the support poles so the acrylic was at it's "weekest" being suspended without those poles,....well....I jumped on the bed and sat in the center to hold on the top column. I weigh 180lbs and the acrylic didnt even move.

I don't think the built quality is an issue with the leonardo when compared to any other bed out there....looks???? everyone has different taste so there is no need to talk likes and dislikes


Tanning results is the important thing here. When you have a salon, just buying beds for the sake of having those beds is stupid and you would be an idiot if you think that way. All the beds you have should be part of your "system". One bed should compliment the other. Every bed should offer the tanner something your other beds don't.

Reinessance has a Ergo 650. Any bed that tans LIKE the 650 would be a waste for him since he doesnt have a 30 bed salon.

[Island Cove]

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[W8INLINE]

Reinessance, at salon # 2 I have the King. Do you think a magic would build on a different clietelle that the ones using the king right now? I think not. So, a magic or mastersun or any low B hp unit will just take some of the traffic i already have on the king now....a juiced up "hp" will take some of my VHR traffic. That's what I wanted when I got a leo.

Tammy....

Basicly what ever miracle sun sells is all good

If they never came up with this bed I would have a matrix right now. I don't care who makes what and who's cult I belong to....I got my own F#$in cult

[Island Cove]

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[Din]

Sorry Tammy, but i don't get any kickbacks from anybody for my opinion. Also, if you read the thread, it says Miracle Sun Leonardo...which means he'll be buying it from Miracle Sun. Just because i know Steve and we bought 3 beds from him, that doesn't mean we get kickbacks or ask for anything if we tell customers our opinions on our bed purchases.

I give the same comments to anyone that asks about a bed that i can answer first hand because we own it and have tried different beds as well as salon owners that own Matrix, Mastersun, Ergo 1050 etc... that have tried our beds and get their feedback in comparison as well.

I just happen to know Renaissance that i met through TanToday and happens to be within the city and i know his market. I am also helping him by giving him any advice that i may have to help him succeed in this industry. That's just part of my human nature. I'm not out to screw anyone to make a sale of any type.

Nor do i get into pissing matches if someone wants to use another marketing company because they believe they get better deal or price or value or they are better or whatever.....i could care less. I try and help those that want the help. Those that believe they know it all already and don't need any free help or advice are more than welcome to do their own thing, but i don't get in their face and try and prove them otherwise.

The point is.....don't come to conclusions without knowing the facts about me or why i do what i do. It's my human nature to help others....and i don't ask for a penny or kickbacks from anyone...and i do it everyday here online. If that's your agreement with you, then....that's you. Don't assume that's the case with me. Thank you.

[W8INLINE]

Tammy. I call bullshit on that.

I am a skin type 3c and tan for friggin FREE!!!!!!

I tanned in a sunsport 2021 and it did Sh!t for me. If I had a 2021, magic with mug6 (i never tanned in a mastersun, so I'll leave that one out) or a matrix.......I WOULD ONLY TAN IN THE MATRIX because that gave me the most colour. As a paying customer if those 3 units were in your area and I paid for a tan on each of them I would go back to the one that gave me the results I got on the matrix. I would do that if I paid or not. Why? cause that bed tanned me 2-3 times more than any of the other two. Some don't want to be as dark as I like to...and the more traditional hp works for them. Lighter skin types fit the bill too...

But if you tell me your customers with the same skin type as me who want the most colour can be talked because of anyones salesmanship into traditional HP and be happy if you could offer them a VHR on steroids.... then your customers CAN'T think for themselves.....they are dumb.

[Island Cove]

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