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| Smartass Canuck Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canada
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| So everyone is talking about how private label lotion is so amazing and you increase your profits yada yada yada....but when you buy lotions at $4.00-$8.00/bottle and have no packettes....why not just go with national brand that has bottles and packettes that you can pick up for the same price after your discount anyhow....and it looks more professional. NO? Do any PL companies offer packettes? Redlime was one of them but i heard that they have discontinued them....True or no?
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| Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: entropy Florida Posts: 2,491 | I bought Redlimes PL kit........ There packet sample looks to be desired and your not able to change anything in them unless you want to pay through the nose. Everything I sampled in the kit would sell in the $15-$29 range. hardly good mark up when compared to our current pl lines, all 10 of them! |
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| Veteran | At GSK Resources, we sell 1/2 gallon jugs to make sample cups from for our private label customers. The profitablity of 1/2 gallon jugs is much greater compared to packets. Doing packets like major manufacturers have for their items requires very large production runs. __________________ Greg Klesius |
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| Smartass Canuck Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 9,090 | Why not mini bottles like John Abate or Tester Jars.......cheap and can be labelled like a bottle. I cannot stand JUGS and cupping out lotions....that is the most ghetto thing you can do. Forget profitability......i'll just jack up the price on the damn packettes to make the same. I want professional look not ghetto tans. so instead of cupping lotion for $2.00.....i'll sell packettes for $8-$9...i don't care..... __________________ ![]() www.ChronosMarketing.com ____________________________________________ The problem nowadays is stupidity. Why don't we just take the safety labels off everything and see what happens? |
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| Smartass Canuck Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 9,090 | HOw do you figure? You can source it locally or go to China and get it even cheaper.....I've already done so. So THAT is why i can't understand why they aren't heading that way. it's not big dollars......will cost under $1.00 filled and labelled. If that is big dollars in your mind....then you are right. __________________ ![]() www.ChronosMarketing.com ____________________________________________ The problem nowadays is stupidity. Why don't we just take the safety labels off everything and see what happens? |
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| Smartass Canuck Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 9,090 | I'm not gonna go into details and quoting pricing......UVAngel, i'm sure you know me by now that i research in detail to maximize profits. So believe me when i say it.......it is possible without a big investment. I'm talking 5,000 testers and you divide that by 5 products and that's 1000 mini's per product. So for under $5,000 you have 5 product lines mini's. I spend more than that a month in lotion orders alone for the salon. Why not invest it and make my own lotion line. Yeah like i have more time to do that.....One day....mark my words.......if nobody comes to me with the right product and bottling and size and PRICE.....i will do it myself. __________________ ![]() www.ChronosMarketing.com ____________________________________________ The problem nowadays is stupidity. Why don't we just take the safety labels off everything and see what happens? |
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| Veteran Join Date: May 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 481 | You might wanna check out redlime They have a Maximizer (Low end and a High end0 Natural Bronzer DHA Bronzer Hot Bronzer And a Moisturizer I beleive the only one they dont make sample packets for is the Natural bronzer You design your own labels for samples and bottles and they put them on OR You can just carry there product line with there labeling |
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| Long Time member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 203 | I have a shot bar which I created, in which I put in pre-made 1/2 oz. cups with lids. It has the labels of my products behind each type of lotion, so it looks somewhat professional. We sell the cups for $3-4. I will try to post a picture of it on here so you all can see what I am talking about. Greg at GSK has helped me a ton. My products look totally professional. I hired a graphic artist to do design my lables, which is costly up front, but it pays off in the long run. |
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| Smartass Canuck Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 9,090 | I'd say they should be on display along with thousands of other salon owners and business marketing organizations and consultants. it's called impulse buy. Keep it in front of their face and they'll buy it. Display plenty of them in an organized manner. If you have 1 or 2 on display they'll hesitate and won't buy. Display a couple dozen choices and help them pick the right one and they will buy. Anyone that took business, ran a successful business or did any type of marketing or worked on displays and merchandising would agree! If you display a cup or a packette....value and appeal is what sells. A couple dollars difference will not make as big of a difference you all think it will. I had a cup for $3.00 and i had a packette for $8.00 of the same product and the same amount. People said, i don't want a cup...what the hell is that...give me the packette. Same amount in the cup, same product, $5.00 cheaper......NOPE.....cup is ghetto.... Guess what....i'm making more off the packette than i did off the cup. And i surely cannot sell a cup for $8.00.......but i can with a packette.....and guess what again....the packette is $8.00 or the bottle is $50...you get bettter value out of a bottle......so they buy the bottle. OR you can sit there and sell cup after cup after cup after cup...that it's really not a big deal to buy a bottle to save so little. It pushes them to buy the bottle...and you know what, if they don't buy the bottle....i dont' care...they are paying $8-$9 for a packette and i still make more money. THAT, is how you do business.......not counting pennies off of cups to pay your rent. And YES, all that has to do with packette of lotions. You just don't realize it until you make the change over. ![]() These PL companies are the ones telling you it's okay to cup a lotion cuz they want your money. __________________ ![]() www.ChronosMarketing.com ____________________________________________ The problem nowadays is stupidity. Why don't we just take the safety labels off everything and see what happens? |
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| Smartass Canuck Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 9,090 | bump... looking for PL companies that have changed their bottles & have added Packettes.... anyone? __________________ ![]() www.ChronosMarketing.com ____________________________________________ The problem nowadays is stupidity. Why don't we just take the safety labels off everything and see what happens? |
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| All Star Join Date: May 2005 Location: south Posts: 53 | Din, I don't have packettes but I do have 2oz tubes. I know that you have wanted unusual packaging. Why don't you purchase it yourself and we will be happy to store it for you and fill as needed. Just a thought. Min. run on packettes are around 10,000 that's why it's not done. GK |
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| Smartass Canuck Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 9,090 | Quote:
It's not that i wanted unusual packaging....rather i wanted a nice looking bottle. Look at MRI ibronze etc....Devoted Mon Ame etc... Those are amazing looking bottles. I am not looking for tubes, tottles and other ugly low end bottles to sell lotions at $20. I am looking for High End PL. My cheapest lotion is $45.00. Most of my lotions are $75-$95. I am looking for a PL company that can do this for me so that i can eliminate all National Brands eventually. __________________ ![]() www.ChronosMarketing.com ____________________________________________ The problem nowadays is stupidity. Why don't we just take the safety labels off everything and see what happens? | |
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