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Old 11th June 2007, 10:02 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Base beds; you have many choices. For you upper level beds; Ergo, Dr. Muller-Future and UWE. Sorry, this may sound opinionated, but even Drew and I will probably see I to I on this one!
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Old 12th June 2007, 01:55 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I'm not sure if you came to a decision yet, but I notice a lot of people are very negative when it comes to ProSun. I am really not sure why this is. No one has proved to me why they are soo bad, all I know is my customers love them. I've been very happy with them as well. We've had a handull of clients come in that travel and tan whenever and where ever they can, and they say these are the best units they ever been in.
IT's cuz they haven't tried the better beds and have nothing to compare them to.

Put a prosun next to a Sungate and you will see the difference.

Put it next to a whole bunch of different beds and you will see the difference.

If you are just comparing it to crap like ETS and stuff....then that is why you say you have the best beds.

It's like coparing a Kia to a Lada or a Daewoo.....THAT'S WHO.....put it next to a BMW, Mercedes or any other type of car for that matter and you'll see the difference....NO?

Compare apples to apples.......
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Old 13th June 2007, 04:28 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Old 13th June 2007, 04:49 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Lets see some meter readings from all these beds that are much better then. Lets see some hard facts about repair issues. I dont' care about stuff you repaired 5 years ago or longer either.
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Old 19th June 2007, 02:29 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Old 19th June 2007, 04:17 PM   #46 (permalink)
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First day on the job huh Rich?
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Old 22nd August 2007, 08:42 PM   #47 (permalink)
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You need to go to the ITA and check out some better brands!!

Think quality and how easy it will be to work on. Think about how it will be in 5 years. Think about the wow factor for your clients!
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Old 6th September 2007, 05:38 AM   #48 (permalink)
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QDM..put some used Orbits in the salon and they will out perform anything from Pro/Ergo.

In fact do a full salon with nothing but Orbits..and you will kill all your competition,
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Old 12th November 2007, 04:02 AM   #49 (permalink)
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Anything from Future Industries..
KBL...
Tanses...the all chrome look never dies, especially in a nice open loft style salon.Very upscale, 'metro'..and they are great performers.

Heartland for good ole American hometown service..and good performing equipment
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Old 12th November 2007, 07:37 AM   #50 (permalink)
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My 2 cents in this dont get anything AUVL. No one in the whole industry outside of the USA knows who the heck they are, and it looks like they just get there beds made by UV Power.

Ergo is the big boy in the game and while there beds dont tan all that well in the USA. In Europe they do pretty well the hotel collection bed I used out there did a great job of tanning me. But they are to over priced in the states thoe.

UWE are great beds but to over priced, Pro Sun has a great company in Hapro but Hapro style and Pro Sun style of selling beds are to different stories. With Phillip Doffegnies thinking of new things for Pro Sun I thing we will see better things.

So go with either UWE or Ergo but Pro Sun is a good choice too.
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Again here I am with fairly new ETS equiptment! As well as a couple sporterredo including the 360 and vegalux! honeslty i have had no complaints with either company! I have excellent relationships with both! I agree that customers dont care who makes the bed but they do car how the bed looks! "eye catching" is key! it works with the younger crowd and the odler crowd. Either will spend more money to tan in the cooler bed just because it looks like it tans better! Now obviously you are still going to have to make sure the beds tan well and you will get good service and low maitnance. I have looked at ergoline just because of how they look! and they tan well! but as it has been mentioned they are truly overpriced! That being said ergoline will really come down on their pricing once they know you are serious! As far as ets! Here we go again! ETS beds been here almost 2 years ! I think in that time i have had one complaint about not tanning! You will always get that customer! I have had no major maitenance issues period! And when i need anything at all they are at my becking call! soo my opinion is like this: if you were in the oil business right now would you rather be on exxon mobile's side? or phillip 66? they are both great companies but the fact is that exxon is where the dough is right now! Same with ETS i think! Stick with them they will treat u well! As far as the look appeal they might be lacking a bit and not quite be competing in that area with ergoline but ive got an insider that says give thejm 15 to 18 months and we will see! ?
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i agree with Danggirl. Ergo or UWE. Cant go wrong
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NO ONE SHOULD BE BUYING ETS, NO ONE, they don't need any more money to grow their market share!

This shouldn't be about if they are good beds or not, they are the heart of the tanning industries problems right now. They can put an end to diversion and front the war on sunblock in a way no other company can. Will they step up to the plate, I doubt it, they will get paid no matter what
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Aimeekat posts on here. What beds did she end up going with?
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she went prosun. aka prosuck as brian would call them, she loves them! When I get to take a trip down clearwater I'm dropping in amiee

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My 2 cents in this dont get anything AUVL. No one in the whole industry outside of the USA knows who the heck they are, and it looks like they just get there beds made by UV Power.

Ergo is the big boy in the game and while there beds dont tan all that well in the USA. In Europe they do pretty well the hotel collection bed I used out there did a great job of tanning me. But they are to over priced in the states thoe.

UWE are great beds but to over priced, Pro Sun has a great company in Hapro but Hapro style and Pro Sun style of selling beds are to different stories. With Phillip Doffegnies thinking of new things for Pro Sun I thing we will see better things.

So go with either UWE or Ergo but Pro Sun is a good choice too.
Okay danggirl, it doesn't look like anyone else is going to break it to ya so I will. My understanding is that AUVL is the Original Dr. Muller. The beds are made in Germany and just about everyone in the business knows this little bit of trivia, as it's not exactly a secret. Their beds look fantastic and are workhorses. Oh yeah I almost forgot, they'll lay a tan on you like most other manufacturers only dream about...and they'll lay that tan on you on any continent!
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Old 13th November 2007, 10:56 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Yep,
Prosun it was. I'm happy.

And bring it on Mikey!!
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My 2 cents in this dont get anything AUVL. No one in the whole industry outside of the USA knows who the heck they are, and it looks like they just get there beds made by UV Power.

Ergo is the big boy in the game and while there beds dont tan all that well in the USA. In Europe they do pretty well the hotel collection bed I used out there did a great job of tanning me. But they are to over priced in the states thoe.

UWE are great beds but to over priced, Pro Sun has a great company in Hapro but Hapro style and Pro Sun style of selling beds are to different stories. With Phillip Doffegnies thinking of new things for Pro Sun I thing we will see better things.

So go with either UWE or Ergo but Pro Sun is a good choice too.
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Old 28th March 2008, 11:19 AM   #59 (permalink)
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We have all Dr. Muller in our house and we love every bit of em.

1 - Future Sun
2 - Elixirs
3 - Suncapsules
1 - Stand-up

Don't see how you can go any better than that.
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