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JustTans23 · 10th October 2007, 01:23 PM

How are these units? Went tanning in the KBL Convertible today. I liked it, I'm thinking of getting something like that in the future.

jamaicabreeze · 11th October 2007, 12:43 PM

It's an awesome looking unit. I check on the price of the KBL4500 earlier this year and the quote I got was $15K...

So, I'm sure the convertible is a lot higher (probably double).

If you're going to be spending that kind of money, mind as well go with 360 HP... Make you more $$$

Just my 2 cents

Din · 11th October 2007, 12:50 PM

Convertible runs approx $35k-$39k MSRP i believe, if i'm not mistaken.

Great beds.

www.kblamerica.com

Talk to Dibita1bob on here....he's got KBL beds and Magic HP.

JustTans23 · 11th October 2007, 12:58 PM

I won't be doing anything for a year or so, but I was just wondering because I really liked the bed when I went in it. I looked at the room specs on the website and it would fit in the rooms in my salon. I don't think an HP will no matter how hard I try. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't my imagination and the bed really was good.

jamaicabreeze · 11th October 2007, 01:05 PM

Just make sure that you have the electrical to support whatever you're going with. Convertible requires 1 1/4 ton of A/C and 50 amp 3 phase. It does come in single phase.

TonyG · 11th October 2007, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Din

Talk to Dibita1bob on here....he's got KBL beds and Magic HP.

Digibob soaked it all up, but once he opened he won't let anything out!

He's a classic "user". Like me!

JustTans23 · 11th October 2007, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamaicabreeze

Just make sure that you have the electrical to support whatever you're going with. Convertible requires 1 1/4 ton of A/C and 50 amp 3 phase. It does come in single phase.

How do I tell how much electrical I can handle? Do I just need to get an electrician in here to tell me?

jamaicabreeze · 11th October 2007, 01:22 PM

Pretty much.

SUNNYDAYS · 11th October 2007, 02:56 PM

In the main panel were all of your breakers are there should be one large breaker either 100 amp 200 amp 225 amp and so on if you have more than one panel add the two main together. Then take 80% of that and that is what you can use in amps legally.

JustTans23 · 11th October 2007, 03:22 PM

I just tried to look and I don't think the main breaker is there because there is a square above all the breakers that says "Remove this twist out only when main breaker is installed in panel"

SUNNYDAYS · 11th October 2007, 03:27 PM

Then you will probably need an electrcian to tell you. Also look on any plates on the panel that may give you an idea of the maximum amount of amps the panel can handel. You may not have as much but it may get you into the ballpark of how many amps you have.

JustTans23 · 11th October 2007, 03:30 PM

thanks

Tanmantans · 11th October 2007, 05:50 PM

Justtans23:
I bought the KBL4000 at last years trade show in Vegas. I had very restrictive power requirements and this model was perfect. I have not had any problems with this unit except for the stupid flag switch that got bent when the air conditioning unit was installed.

I have owned this unit for 14 months now and have garnered over $30,000 over the original price of the unit. This unit is a work horse! I do not see you going wrong with a unit from KBL.

FIT · 11th October 2007, 06:31 PM

I have a KBL 3500 Ultra Power 140W for my level 2 bed. It's an outstanding bed. Wish I would have priced it a little higher to start out. I get $11.00 for a single session. Should have priced it at $13.00.

Alot of people prefer it to my level 3 ($17.00). It tans almost as well as the Blue Moon but $6.00 less. Absolutely no complaints on this bed.

I would tend to agree with Jamaica though. To spend that much money and not get HP seems foolish. What size is your room? The KBL convertible is 94x60. That's roughly the same size as my Matrix.

JustTans23 · 11th October 2007, 06:39 PM

Ok, well I won't be able to do anything for a year unless a pile of money suddenly falls into my lap so it looks like I have some thinking and planning to do. Thanks for all the advice

SandiGirl · 11th October 2007, 06:47 PM

I want the 5600 in pink. Oh and misters are available.

Brian Oshman · 11th October 2007, 11:23 PM

Quote:

"Remove this twist out only when main breaker is installed in panel"

Go outside by the electric meter. This is a sub panel and will not have a main breaker in it. The main breaker is probably by the meter as they are in similar building situations like yours.

It will probably have a door covering it...don't be scared, it won't shock you, open the door and read ther number stamped on the switch.

That will be the service rating.

JustTans23 · 11th October 2007, 11:27 PM

Thanks, I figured you'd have an answer for me.

JustTans23 · 12th October 2007, 10:15 AM

There is locks on all the doors. Blah!

JustTans23 · 12th October 2007, 03:46 PM

How do I know how many amps I am currently using?

10th October 2007, 01:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
JustTans23 Hall of Famer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MA Posts: 2,649	KBL America How are these units? Went tanning in the KBL Convertible today. I liked it, I'm thinking of getting something like that in the future. __________________

11th October 2007, 12:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
jamaicabreeze All Star Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: here Posts: 236	Re: KBL America It's an awesome looking unit. I check on the price of the KBL4500 earlier this year and the quote I got was $15K... So, I'm sure the convertible is a lot higher (probably double). If you're going to be spending that kind of money, mind as well go with 360 HP... Make you more $$$ Just my 2 cents

11th October 2007, 12:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
Din Smartass Canuck Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 8,913	Re: KBL America Convertible runs approx $35k-$39k MSRP i believe, if i'm not mistaken. Great beds. www.kblamerica.com Talk to Dibita1bob on here....he's got KBL beds and Magic HP. __________________ www.ChronosMarketing.com ____________________________________________ The problem nowadays is stupidity. Why don't we just take the safety labels off everything and see what happens?

11th October 2007, 12:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
JustTans23 Hall of Famer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MA Posts: 2,649	Re: KBL America I won't be doing anything for a year or so, but I was just wondering because I really liked the bed when I went in it. I looked at the room specs on the website and it would fit in the rooms in my salon. I don't think an HP will no matter how hard I try. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't my imagination and the bed really was good. __________________

11th October 2007, 01:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
jamaicabreeze All Star Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: here Posts: 236	Re: KBL America Just make sure that you have the electrical to support whatever you're going with. Convertible requires 1 1/4 ton of A/C and 50 amp 3 phase. It does come in single phase.

11th October 2007, 01:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
jamaicabreeze All Star Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: here Posts: 236	Re: KBL America Pretty much.

11th October 2007, 02:56 PM	#9 (permalink)
SUNNYDAYS Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: EAST COAST Posts: 1,445	Re: KBL America In the main panel were all of your breakers are there should be one large breaker either 100 amp 200 amp 225 amp and so on if you have more than one panel add the two main together. Then take 80% of that and that is what you can use in amps legally. __________________

11th October 2007, 03:22 PM	#10 (permalink)
JustTans23 Hall of Famer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MA Posts: 2,649	Re: KBL America I just tried to look and I don't think the main breaker is there because there is a square above all the breakers that says "Remove this twist out only when main breaker is installed in panel" __________________

11th October 2007, 03:27 PM	#11 (permalink)
SUNNYDAYS Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: EAST COAST Posts: 1,445	Re: KBL America Then you will probably need an electrcian to tell you. Also look on any plates on the panel that may give you an idea of the maximum amount of amps the panel can handel. You may not have as much but it may get you into the ballpark of how many amps you have. __________________

11th October 2007, 03:30 PM	#12 (permalink)
JustTans23 Hall of Famer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MA Posts: 2,649	Re: KBL America thanks __________________

11th October 2007, 05:50 PM	#13 (permalink)
Tanmantans All Star Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Northern CA Posts: 120	Re: KBL America Justtans23: I bought the KBL4000 at last years trade show in Vegas. I had very restrictive power requirements and this model was perfect. I have not had any problems with this unit except for the stupid flag switch that got bent when the air conditioning unit was installed. I have owned this unit for 14 months now and have garnered over $30,000 over the original price of the unit. This unit is a work horse! I do not see you going wrong with a unit from KBL.

11th October 2007, 06:31 PM	#14 (permalink)
FIT Gone Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,145	Re: KBL America I have a KBL 3500 Ultra Power 140W for my level 2 bed. It's an outstanding bed. Wish I would have priced it a little higher to start out. I get $11.00 for a single session. Should have priced it at $13.00. Alot of people prefer it to my level 3 ($17.00). It tans almost as well as the Blue Moon but $6.00 less. Absolutely no complaints on this bed. I would tend to agree with Jamaica though. To spend that much money and not get HP seems foolish. What size is your room? The KBL convertible is 94x60. That's roughly the same size as my Matrix.

11th October 2007, 06:39 PM	#15 (permalink)
JustTans23 Hall of Famer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MA Posts: 2,649	Re: KBL America Ok, well I won't be able to do anything for a year unless a pile of money suddenly falls into my lap so it looks like I have some thinking and planning to do. Thanks for all the advice __________________

11th October 2007, 06:47 PM	#16 (permalink)
SandiGirl Hall of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 3,808	Re: KBL America I want the 5600 in pink. Oh and misters are available. __________________ ************************************************ *************** Grammar Tip of the Year - Apostrophes are for condensing and belonging...NOT pluralizing. SandiGirl ~ Changing tanning forums one apostrophe at a time.

11th October 2007, 11:27 PM	#18 (permalink)
JustTans23 Hall of Famer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MA Posts: 2,649	Re: KBL America Thanks, I figured you'd have an answer for me. __________________

12th October 2007, 10:15 AM	#19 (permalink)
JustTans23 Hall of Famer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MA Posts: 2,649	Re: KBL America There is locks on all the doors. Blah! __________________

12th October 2007, 03:46 PM	#20 (permalink)
JustTans23 Hall of Famer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MA Posts: 2,649	Re: KBL America How do I know how many amps I am currently using? __________________

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