175 amp three phase

[Bellastan]

could this handle three beds? two base, one level three?
thanks

[W8INLINE]

it's like saying..."could this garage fit this vehicle?"

what if the vehicle in question is a transport truck? what about a civic hatchback. both vehicles but different sizes.

what beds are you talking about?

[Bellastan]

two 30 amp, one 60 amp I do not have any beds this is a general question.

or would a different combination work all 30amp

[Brian Oshman]

Yes, it will run those three beds.

[Mike_W]

Wow. Why are you investing in so much power? Sounds like you may be going overboard there.

[Bellastan]

the building I am looking to lease, currently has this in it I just wanted to make sure I wouldn't have to upgrade electrical before I open or sign the lease. How many beds could this run? You implied that is a lot of electrical, what beds could this support?

[Din]

5 HP
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P.S. maybe only 1 at a time though.

[Bellastan]

What do you mean one at a time? It can handle the three beds I mentioned, but how many more could it handle? Are you saying I could add one of the above? Then I would be maxed out for electric.

[Din]

You can have 8 beds....but they wouldn't be able to run at the same time.

[Bellastan]

I could have three beds but run only one at a time? or are you saying I can run the two 30amps one 60 amp but not a hp at the same time.

[Tanning Queen]

OK, how bout starting this whole thing over. Why not tell us how many beds you want to have and then we will be able to tell you the electrical requirements you will need to have. We also would be able to tell you the size of the place you need, and how much AC you will need, etc.

Are you looking to have this as the full salon or as an add on? Is this to make money or as a hobby? What are the demographics of the place you want to open?

More info needed or you will keep getting answers like above...

[Bellastan]

I'm opening a hair salon with 3-4 tanning beds at open, I have an attached space with room to grow the tanning aspect(1000 sqf). The location has 6 tons of AC. I will phase in the tanning. I know I will need more electric down the road, allong with more AC. 75,000 people in 5 mile radius, Average income per person 60k. 95% white. hope that helps

[blondjuls]

Here is the thing Bella:

You have to have enough elec to sustain the start up current of all of your beds running at the same time.

I have about 400 amp available. I'm not ever pulling all of it at one time. But each bed has to have a dedicated circuit large enough to not throw the breaker when the bed initially lights.

(For ex. my base bed is a 30 100W bed. I have 6 of them and each has a 30 amp dedicated circuit) When the bed turns on it pulls the most current initially and then settles down to a stable current. I have other beds, this is just one example. You also have to have enough to run lights, tvs, etc.

Now, that being said. We don't know what you are trying to accomplish here. However, 175 isn't that much if thats all you have. My lights and ac, and general electric are on a 100 amp 3 phase circuit alone. Adding another 3 or 4 beds would probably need to draw at least another 100 amp.

[blondjuls]

What is the square footage of the entire place? Or are you saying you have 6 tons of ac just for the 1000 sq ft for the tanning?

[Bellastan]

thanks blond. I know I'll need more electric, I'm thinking I can open with what I have. I'm thinking only 3 beds to start. obviously 8 beds is way to much.2880 sqf total, 1800 built out, thats the space that has four rooms built out for tanning beds 6 tons for entire building, However the AC is all going to the area that is finished.

[Brian Oshman]

Damn Juls, on the money with that post. As I said before 175 would run those three beds. That was the question, however, if that 6 tons and all of your lighting is allready connected to that panel then no.

And since you want to have hair too, hair dryers and irons and such still require lots of reserve current to operate. Hot water will be a comodity too. Hope you have gas service the the space.

Even hybrid salons need lots of power.

[blondjuls]

LOL...funny what all you learn being a salon owner.

I work on my beds myself. Have my grounding strap and eveything..lol. Screw paying someone else to do it. I'm a know-it-all anyway.

Anywho...Bella. Looks like you're short on the AC too. Keep in mind most average tanning units will need an additional .5-1.5 tons of AC. Thats additional to the 6 tons you have. 2800 sq ft needs that 6 tons of ac to keep it cool (well, actually I didn't look to see where you were located, you might could get away with less, but we're in the south, we need it). For every bed you add you'll need the additional AC.

I have 25 tons of AC. 10 Beds in a 2000 sq ft facility. 20 X 100.

[Tanning Queen]

Look in to how much it will cost to add more power later. Might not be as simple as you think. My salon would have had to have PECO dig up the parking lot to bring more in. LOTS of $$$$ to do that. But right off the bat, you need more power and more AC. And you definitely will need more if you want to have nice upgrade beds.

You also mentioned that the space already has 4 rooms built out for beds. Are they big enough for what you want?

[Bellastan]

The rooms are big enough for the beds. I just spoke with the electrician he is confidient the electric will support the 3 tanning beds I listed above. Thanks for all the help

[blondjuls]

Was the electrician familiar with tanning beds? I thought they "ALL" were...because its not that complicated.

WRONG-O. It took 7 electricians scratching their heads on how to hook up my three phase while I paced back and forth demanding that they call tech support....They were the electricians for the whole building. After the fact I had to have COMPETENT electricians come fix what they screwed up. They had a HUGE breaker on my three phase that the bed would have had to literally explode before ever tripping the thing. Total fire hazard. So just keep that in mind when some random electrician tells you, Oh yeah, that will be fine!