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Old 20th June 2007, 09:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi everyone. I am opening a new salon within the next few months. Thought that I was pretty sold on having ETS beds, saw them and have tanned at planet beach for years. However, once I started doing research it seems that ETS gets bashed alot. Why? Are they really that bad or are there just so many others to choose from. I still love the way the velocity looks compared to all other HPs, and was stll considering it for my HP even if my other beds aren't ETS. So what I'm asking is why not ETS?
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Old 20th June 2007, 09:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The velocity looks like poo compared to other HP
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Old 20th June 2007, 09:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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which ones?
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Old 20th June 2007, 09:42 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The Velocity can't even get close to tanning as well as the Tanses THP24M, and the THP24M is the bottom of Tanses High Pressure Beds.
I have a Chronos which is made by Sun Italia in my salon and my THP24M out tans it every day. Customer satisfaction is 10 to one in favor of the THP.

It takes 6 1/2 hours to throughly clean and relamp the Chronos and 35 min. to do the same to the THP.

The reason ETS gets bashed so much is that their beds are so so
and their service after the sale is poor.

These coments are from a previous purchaser from ETS.
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Old 20th June 2007, 09:48 PM   #5 (permalink)
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So you are going to open at the absolute slowest time of year? And you want to open with beds that your competitor has?

First off, do more research and tan in anything you are thinking of buying. Research this industry more and see if you area can support another salon. Make sure you have enough money to cover your personal and business bills for at least 6-9 mos. Open in Jan/feb. Understand HP before you buy it and learn how to sell it correctly. Run your stats for the area and make sure you can make money.
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Old 20th June 2007, 09:49 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Cuz they suck poopoo balls.....compare to....well, just about anything else out there.

Go tan on pretty much ANYTHING else and see the difference for yourself.

I recommend you tan on a unit before you buy it. Remember, there are dark people out there that want colour too....they are your money makers. not the pasty white ones that tan twice thinking that is all they need for a base. The people that tan all year round will not use ETS beds and say they are good.
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Old 20th June 2007, 09:50 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I'm not really familar with that brand. I've looked into the Magic 636 by sun Italia and the open sun 1050. I guess I leaning more twoard ergoline. But I also met with the ProSun rep today. Just so confused. But I guess I might have to give up on ETS
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Old 20th June 2007, 09:53 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I've tanned in Planet Beach when I lived in New Orleans, I now live in PA. I have very little compitition when it comes upscale salons. and I won't be opening for at least 3 months
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Prosun......or prosuck as Brian likes to call them are comparable to ETS from what people have said.

Keep reading....you have lots of reading to do.

You want quality beds.

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Sunitalia/MiracleSun

Can't go wrong with the above.......happy shopping
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Old 20th June 2007, 09:59 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Thanks for your help
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Old 20th June 2007, 10:50 PM   #11 (permalink)
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The velocity can't compete with the other top HP beds out there.
Look at something else.
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Old 21st June 2007, 01:00 AM   #12 (permalink)
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What does everyone think about Tan America?
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Old 21st June 2007, 09:48 AM   #13 (permalink)
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ETS has come along way in improving their beds. Before 2000 their beds did sux. but for the last 5 years or so they have made some decent beds, imo. However, they have also raised their prices, by 2 or 3 times what they used to cost.

Big selling point on ETS used to be their low price. I would consider ETS for your Level One units, but would go with the lines Din mention for your upgrade units. And I say this only because I don't know enough about ETS's newer upgrade units to recommend them - they may be just as good.

Probably most of the people bashing ETS beds are doing so based on the past. Most of them probably have not used any of their beds recently. I don't think it would be a terrible mistake if you got some ETS beds, but there are several other lines that have a better past record.
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ETS is better then Pro Sun. Tan America, OK, nothing special but durable. They like using magnetic ballasts though which eat lamps fast.
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Everyone needs to stop bashing ProSun because apparently no one has seen their new equipment either.
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Who's bashing? These were just brands mentioned in this thread.
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Old 21st June 2007, 11:08 AM   #17 (permalink)
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ETS is better then Pro Sun. Tan America, OK, nothing special but durable. They like using magnetic ballasts though which eat lamps fast.
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Prosun......or prosuck as Brian likes to call them are comparable to ETS from what people have said.
When you say something is better than another brand but can't back up the statement, yea thats bashing.

You still have not commented on any of the new Prosun beds, this is probably because you have not had to touch them.
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Old 21st June 2007, 11:25 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Dang Mike, you must have ProSuns. Must be doing well for you. As for Brian, he does know his stuff. I like being nice to Brian. You never know when he will be your best friend.
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He does and just opened 2 mos ago. Not enough time to know how they will be over time.

No offence Mike but they arent the BEST. They are good but there is better out there. But they are better than ETS. I had a Prosun bed and it was ok. Had issues with getting it fixed alot and it never seemed to solve the problem. Acrylic fell down on clients alot. It tanned pretty good but I have gotten better color from other units. JMHO
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I do have ProSun, and they are performing exceptionally well. Making enemies isn't my thing, but come on. Don't go by what happend years ago. It's about what is happening now.

You can compare the tanning industry to the auto industry in this aspect, some companies that you'd never consider buying from are taking the world by storm, and the big 3 are left scratching their head.

I use this forum for information, but what someone posts online isn't the end all of that info. Many people have lots of experience, many people are extremely biased by that experience.

All I ask for are facts, personal opinion doesn't go far without them
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