Bed Max Times?? - TanToday - Helping Salon Owners, One At A Time, Since 2000!

smileysnob · 25th October 2007, 12:45 PM

At the salon I will be purchasing there are some older beds – no brand names off the top of my head right now. Anyway – she has them max 15 mins. How do I tell what the max really is? I think I can up that to 20 and raise the session price. They are very similar to the salon I worked at and the max was 20 mins.

Opinions? I think one is a genesis…

thanks

elitetanner · 25th October 2007, 12:47 PM

Why are you interested in 20 minute equipment?

JustTans23 · 25th October 2007, 12:57 PM

Our beds can do 20 minutes but I just do 15 anyway. When people bitch that "other salons base beds are 20." I say, our lamps are better than theirs, therefore you can only do 15. That seems to work. Its the way the old owner had it and it would cause too much confusion if I tried to switch it. I have stupid customers.

mgj · 25th October 2007, 01:02 PM

Look at the FDA sticker on the side of the bed. If you are in a reg. state that is the max time. The same beds sometimes come in diff. config. i.e. sundash's 10,15,20 min. diff. chip and lamp. Ultrasun solarwind looks the same, one has 100 watt ballast's the other 160 watt.

write down every make and model (look at the sticker for lamps and min.) along with what type of lamps, and I am sure this site could provide more insite.

mgj

Glowtanning530 · 25th October 2007, 01:05 PM

why would you up them to 20 minute and raise the price?
Let me reread this I think I got lost somewher

brownsuze · 25th October 2007, 01:06 PM

Smiley you got it backwards. People will pay more for a SHORTER session, not a longer one. The shorter the session the more $$ you ask for...

solarmeter® · 25th October 2007, 01:07 PM

IF they are putting out 4 MEDs in 15 minute Te time.... you will burn people going 20 minutes.

You need a 7.0 meter to know.... but I doubt if you care enough to get one.

elitetanner · 25th October 2007, 01:11 PM

I feel the pain. I asked customers if they would like 15 minute beds to compliment our current 20 minute and 10 minute setup.. and they went nuts for the idea. Then there are the idiots that stoll in "Ya'll have 20 minute beds?" Yes. "Well the XXXX down the street has 30 minute beds." Well, if you choose to lay there for 30 minutes then have fun.

But really, if your "20"/"15" minute bed's lamps are truly meant to perform their best during a 20 minute session, it's a disservice. And financially speaking, your 20 minute beds should give the least best result.. you more expensive and shorter session units should give the best results. Not all levels should be equal - that is why we call them levels! We have basic, middle and vhor; and there is HP but I put that in its own class. Basic $8 session (midday sun lamps), middle $10 (beach sun lamps), vhor $13 or $14 for facials (signature series). HP is 35.

smileysnob · 25th October 2007, 01:24 PM

yea, I understand what everyone is saying - Thank you!

They have all beds at 15 I think... that is why I was asking, so I can break it up a bit. I have to get in there and see teh bulbs and all - give you more information too.

Tanning Queen · 25th October 2007, 01:24 PM

Longer sessions mean less people to see each day. Less people means less money. Even if you raise the price.

Ex: 15 min session are $5. You can see 3.5 people per hour (given cleaning and dressing time) = $17.50 per hour
20 min session are $6. You can see 2.5 peole per hour (given cleaning and dressing time = $15.00 per hour

Which makes more sense?

smileysnob · 25th October 2007, 01:44 PM

^ yup, makes sense

)

RonnieT. · 25th October 2007, 09:26 PM

After you check the "bulbs"...if you can find any, Check out the "lamps" in the bed, write down the name and any info that is on the "lamp", post it here and we can tell you what the max time of the unit is. Also write down some other info and post as well...like number of lamps per unit and so on...

RonnieT.

Maria · 30th October 2007, 01:15 PM

Purchasing this salon is a mistake. You need to educate yourself more on the tanning business and research the market.

I know the area, do you know whom you are competing against ??

Cal Sun
Hollywood Tans and now...
Planet Fitness

Your chances to survive are slim -- no matter how low the purchase price.

brownsuze · 30th October 2007, 01:33 PM

awwww....

SandiGirl · 30th October 2007, 02:39 PM

Finding out what kind of beds they are would be a start.

Calling someone who sells them would be an idea.

smileysnob · 2nd November 2007, 04:08 PM

Here we go again Suze... Maria - thanks for your input - I know what is around me though. I am glad you can tell me the area though.

Again - this thread isnt about what I should do - it was for your advice and I am educating myself many ways (one being this great site) now dont ruin the site for me!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maria

Purchasing this salon is a mistake. You need to educate yourself more on the tanning business and research the market.

I know the area, do you know whom you are competing against ??

Cal Sun
Hollywood Tans and now...
Planet Fitness

Your chances to survive are slim -- no matter how low the purchase price.

25th October 2007, 12:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
smileysnob Veteran Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Conshohocken, PA Posts: 318	Bed Max Times?? At the salon I will be purchasing there are some older beds – no brand names off the top of my head right now. Anyway – she has them max 15 mins. How do I tell what the max really is? I think I can up that to 20 and raise the session price. They are very similar to the salon I worked at and the max was 20 mins. Opinions? I think one is a genesis… thanks __________________ “Small opportunities are often the beginning of great enterprises"-- Demosthenes (384BC - 322BC)

25th October 2007, 12:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
elitetanner All Star Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: In a tanning bed. It's warm! Posts: 279	Re: Bed Max Times?? Why are you interested in 20 minute equipment? __________________ There are only two certainties in life: taxes & death.

25th October 2007, 12:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
JustTans23 Hall of Famer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MA Posts: 2,649	Re: Bed Max Times?? Our beds can do 20 minutes but I just do 15 anyway. When people bitch that "other salons base beds are 20." I say, our lamps are better than theirs, therefore you can only do 15. That seems to work. Its the way the old owner had it and it would cause too much confusion if I tried to switch it. I have stupid customers. __________________

25th October 2007, 01:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
mgj Super Star Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: chicago Posts: 512	Re: Bed Max Times?? Look at the FDA sticker on the side of the bed. If you are in a reg. state that is the max time. The same beds sometimes come in diff. config. i.e. sundash's 10,15,20 min. diff. chip and lamp. Ultrasun solarwind looks the same, one has 100 watt ballast's the other 160 watt. write down every make and model (look at the sticker for lamps and min.) along with what type of lamps, and I am sure this site could provide more insite. mgj

25th October 2007, 01:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
Glowtanning530 Hall of Famer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Northern CA Posts: 3,082	Re: Bed Max Times?? why would you up them to 20 minute and raise the price? Let me reread this I think I got lost somewher __________________ www.myspace.com/glowtanningco www.glowtanningco.com

25th October 2007, 01:06 PM	#6 (permalink)
brownsuze Hall of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: in the old part of the city Posts: 2,417	Re: Bed Max Times?? Smiley you got it backwards. People will pay more for a SHORTER session, not a longer one. The shorter the session the more $$ you ask for...

25th October 2007, 01:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
solarmeter® UV Geek Squad Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Lake St Clair Posts: 3,326	Re: Bed Max Times?? IF they are putting out 4 MEDs in 15 minute Te time.... you will burn people going 20 minutes. You need a 7.0 meter to know.... but I doubt if you care enough to get one. __________________ ......................Flashback 2001........................ "One of the 'ORIGINAL' TanToday Gang"

25th October 2007, 01:11 PM	#8 (permalink)
elitetanner All Star Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: In a tanning bed. It's warm! Posts: 279	Re: Bed Max Times?? I feel the pain. I asked customers if they would like 15 minute beds to compliment our current 20 minute and 10 minute setup.. and they went nuts for the idea. Then there are the idiots that stoll in "Ya'll have 20 minute beds?" Yes. "Well the XXXX down the street has 30 minute beds." Well, if you choose to lay there for 30 minutes then have fun. But really, if your "20"/"15" minute bed's lamps are truly meant to perform their best during a 20 minute session, it's a disservice. And financially speaking, your 20 minute beds should give the least best result.. you more expensive and shorter session units should give the best results. Not all levels should be equal - that is why we call them levels! We have basic, middle and vhor; and there is HP but I put that in its own class. Basic $8 session (midday sun lamps), middle $10 (beach sun lamps), vhor $13 or $14 for facials (signature series). HP is 35. __________________ There are only two certainties in life: taxes & death.

25th October 2007, 01:24 PM	#9 (permalink)
smileysnob Veteran Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Conshohocken, PA Posts: 318	Re: Bed Max Times?? yea, I understand what everyone is saying - Thank you! They have all beds at 15 I think... that is why I was asking, so I can break it up a bit. I have to get in there and see teh bulbs and all - give you more information too. __________________ “Small opportunities are often the beginning of great enterprises"-- Demosthenes (384BC - 322BC)

25th October 2007, 01:24 PM	#10 (permalink)
Tanning Queen Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Six degrees left of nowhere Posts: 5,008	Re: Bed Max Times?? Longer sessions mean less people to see each day. Less people means less money. Even if you raise the price. Ex: 15 min session are $5. You can see 3.5 people per hour (given cleaning and dressing time) = $17.50 per hour 20 min session are $6. You can see 2.5 peole per hour (given cleaning and dressing time = $15.00 per hour Which makes more sense? __________________

25th October 2007, 01:44 PM	#11 (permalink)
smileysnob Veteran Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Conshohocken, PA Posts: 318	Re: Bed Max Times?? ^ yup, makes sense ) __________________ “Small opportunities are often the beginning of great enterprises"-- Demosthenes (384BC - 322BC)

25th October 2007, 09:26 PM	#12 (permalink)
RonnieT. All Star Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Great Wet Northwest Posts: 220	Re: Bed Max Times?? After you check the "bulbs"...if you can find any, Check out the "lamps" in the bed, write down the name and any info that is on the "lamp", post it here and we can tell you what the max time of the unit is. Also write down some other info and post as well...like number of lamps per unit and so on... RonnieT.

30th October 2007, 01:15 PM	#13 (permalink)
Maria All Star Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 139	Re: Bed Max Times?? Purchasing this salon is a mistake. You need to educate yourself more on the tanning business and research the market. I know the area, do you know whom you are competing against ?? Cal Sun Hollywood Tans and now... Planet Fitness Your chances to survive are slim -- no matter how low the purchase price.

30th October 2007, 01:33 PM	#14 (permalink)
brownsuze Hall of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: in the old part of the city Posts: 2,417	Re: Bed Max Times?? awwww....

30th October 2007, 02:39 PM	#15 (permalink)
SandiGirl Hall of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 3,865	Re: Bed Max Times?? Finding out what kind of beds they are would be a start. Calling someone who sells them would be an idea. __________________ ************************************************ *************** Grammar Tip of the Year - Apostrophes are for condensing and belonging...NOT pluralizing. SandiGirl ~ Changing tanning forums one apostrophe at a time.

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