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20th March 2008, 10:06 PM
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Re: Just a speech?
No Al. He said the minister said other things in the past that he didn't agree with. He said he never heard him make the anti-American comments he made recently and he stands by that.
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20th March 2008, 10:10 PM
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Re: Just a speech?
What about the anti-white comments?
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20th March 2008, 10:12 PM
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She filed for hardship or some thign like that and her bill came out to $41
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1. You have to be in a position to file for hardship. Bill Gates can't roll out on a hospital bill and just say sorry - don't have the dough.
2. Brownsuze was very clear that she didn't want to get stuck with someone else's healthcare bill. Unless she's a hypocrit then hardship would not be an option cause someone else is surely paying for your friends care.
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I didnt have health insurance for almost 10 years. It was cheaper for me to not have it since I never got sick.
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For you the gamble clearly paid off. One drunk driver crossing the center line and hitting you head on would have made your gamble a really bad decision. Do you ski? Play sports? How much would you have saved if you needed knee surgery?
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20th March 2008, 10:13 PM
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What about the anti-white comments?
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You'll have to ask him.
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20th March 2008, 10:13 PM
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Re: Just a speech?
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. That's almost plausible. Btw, "recently" was fall of 2001.
I wonder what his grandmother, who is a "typical white woman", thinks about his deniability of his close spiritual advisor's racism, and how Wright's long held and well known views of typical white people has rubbed off on Obama.
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20th March 2008, 10:40 PM
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Re: Just a speech?
Fit, dont give me that line "ask him". You are the one saying that he never was there for the comments. Ok, so maybe he wasnt there for the GD America sermon, but he is a blantant racist but it is ok cuz he is black. I get it.
To respond to the medical comments, NO, I dont ski but I ride motorcycles. I drive a car. Everyday I do what normal people do and it hasnt been a problem. But if someone runs me down? Guess who pays for that? THEY DO. And if they dont have the insurance or money, I would still get treatment. Now, how does making it MANDATORY to have insurance going to change anything as far as care? Look at Canada and you will see what will happen. THey are coming HERE to get treatment because the wait lists and red tape is crazy. Who is going to pay for this mandatory health care? TAXPAYERS. Why do I want to pay more than I do already now for someone elses problems?
Here is what I want. I want to have control of my own Soc Sec money to invest MYSELF. I can do a better job and grow it faster than the govt. I want EXCELLENT healthcare and I dont mind paying for it. I want LOW taxes. I dont want to have to pay more money just because I make lots of money. Why should I be punished because I am good at making money and work hard to get it? I want welfare to go away. I want people on welfare to go get a job. Stop having kids so you can avoid working. Stop being picky on what job you take. If the illegal is willing to scrub floors for min wage, so should you. If you did the jobs they are willing to do, they would have no choice but to go home.
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20th March 2008, 10:58 PM
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Here is what I want. I want to have control of my own Soc Sec money to invest MYSELF. I can do a better job and grow it faster than the govt. I want EXCELLENT healthcare and I dont mind paying for it. I want LOW taxes. I dont want to have to pay more money just because I make lots of money. Why should I be punished because I am good at making money and work hard to get it? I want welfare to go away. I want people on welfare to go get a job. Stop having kids so you can avoid working. Stop being picky on what job you take. If the illegal is willing to scrub floors for min wage, so should you. If you did the jobs they are willing to do, they would have no choice but to go home.
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Tanning Queen is my new hero. Bravo!
Elite Mike is being a casper-milk-toast. So are ALL moderates.
FIT I will never agree with... but at least he sticks to his guns.
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20th March 2008, 11:13 PM
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Re: Just a speech?
Sounds so simple Queen. But it's not.
My dad passed away when I was 11. He didn't need life insurance. He was only 30. Well when his plane went down my Mom was screwed. She had two kids to raise with only a high school diploma. She worked two jobs and took nothing from others. No welfare. No food stamps. Just hard work.
She deserves alot of credit but she had something going for her that many do not. She was white.
My mom worked in a doctor's office by day and a convenience store at night. It was a big office. There were probably 20+ medical assitants. Her night job had maybe another dozen employees.
I can remember it like it was yesterday. It was the mid-80's and she made enough to keep us in a good home in a good neighborhood. What really stands out in my mind was that there wasn't one non-white employee at either location.
What jobs would have been available to her if she were Black or Hispanic or even Asian? Not the jobs she had. We wouldn't have grown up in the great surroundings we did. We wouldn't have gone to the great school we did. We wouldn't have had the same opportunity.
You want them to get a job. Well some WANT to work. And yes other's don't. It's just not as simple as you make it out.
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20th March 2008, 11:38 PM
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Re: Just a speech?
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1. You have to be in a position to file for hardship. Bill Gates can't roll out on a hospital bill and just say sorry - don't have the dough.
2. Brownsuze was very clear that she didn't want to get stuck with someone else's healthcare bill. Unless she's a hypocrit then hardship would not be an option cause someone else is surely paying for your friends care.
For you the gamble clearly paid off. One drunk driver crossing the center line and hitting you head on would have made your gamble a really bad decision. Do you ski? Play sports? How much would you have saved if you needed knee surgery?
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If the dems take over and put through a plan that requires all employers to provide coverage to their employees--including tanning salons and other small businesses--will you be gung ho for that?
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20th March 2008, 11:42 PM
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Re: Just a speech?
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I can remember it like it was yesterday. It was the mid-80's and she made enough to keep us in a good home in a good neighborhood. What really stands out in my mind was that there wasn't one non-white employee at either location.
What jobs would have been available to her if she were Black or Hispanic or even Asian? Not the jobs she had. We wouldn't have grown up in the great surroundings we did. We wouldn't have gone to the great school we did. We wouldn't have had the same opportunity.
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BullSh*t.
If that isn't white middle-class guilt complex, I don't know what is.
And this is the reason why many democrats vote for Obama, to make their self loathing selves feel better.
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