Just a speech?

[Tanning Queen]

So why arent they being taught? Because they are black???? C'mon, give me a reason why the basic golden rule is lacking there.

What resentment? I have nothing against anyone who works hard and pushes themselves to become a better person. Black or white, it doesnt matter. Ok,maybe I am resentful. But it isnt against any one race. It is against people who are lazy and take everything they can and not give back. Nothing to do with color.

And sorry, but you cant tell me that a guy who is that hateful and made those racist comments only did it in ONE sermon that Obama just "happened" to be absent from.

[FIT]

So why arent they being taught? Because they are black???? C'mon, give me a reason why the basic golden rule is lacking there.

Because they are raised in an environment where learning how to hotwire a car is a more common basic skill. Because that's how the generation's before them achieved wealth and status when the traditional ways weren't available to them.

[Tanning Queen]

Ok, tell that to every black grandmom I have met who reprimand their grandkids and demand respect. Somehow they get it but it hasnt crossed over to the general public. They treat their families completely different than they do the policeman or the teacher. In every black family I know, you DONT disrespect Grandma!

[FIT]

So why arent they being taught? Because they are black???? C'mon, give me a reason why the basic golden rule is lacking there.

If brain surgery were the only means of escaping poverty could you teach me Queen? Could I teach my children? The values you and I take for granted are just as foreign to a 16 year single black mother of two who was taught by her 16 year single black mother who learned from her 16 year old single black mother.

[FIT]

In every black family I know, you DONT disrespect Grandma

How many black families do you really know? If I really try I might be able to come up with a dozen and none of them were raised in the inner city ghetto.

[Tanning Queen]

Would you like me to give you their names and addresses? I grew up in an area that is well mixed. And it is now ranked #9 in the country in Money Magazine. My schools are top ranked. So much so that kids from all over the country that were minorities were brought in and housed here in the ABC house (A Better Chance) and were able to get a great education. But only minorities were given that chance. But I guess only minorities live in poverty and the ghetto and they are the only ones that are supposed to get that chance, right?

Anyway, yes, my actual neighborhood is very nice but our school had the neighboring townships included. So there were plenty of blacks that I went to school with. Many I am still friends with today. Some went bad and others excelled because they wanted to get out of where they lived. I have many clients that I sell homes to that are black. I sell houses in the ghetto and I have no issues with it. No, I dont like going there at nite but I dont want to get shot.

You obviously didnt grow up in an area with many minorites, therefore you really cant say that your Mom got a job that she wouldnt have if she were black. Maybe she would have, maybe not.

[Digita1B0B]

It's called survival of the FITtest. It sucks if you come from a long line of folks teaching you poor survival skills... really, it does. But it doesn't mean that society owes you better. Take it up with your mom or grandmom or whoever passed on such poor life skills.

By the way, Tanning Queen, since your Cherokee.... can you hook me up with some peyote???

Bob

[Tanning Queen]

Ok, so brain surgery is the only way out of poverty. Good thing I am white and didnt have to learn that to survive in life.

[FIT]

You obviously didnt grow up in an area with many minorites, therefore you really cant say that your Mom got a job that she wouldnt have if she were black. Maybe she would have, maybe not.

Again you're wrong.

Ok, so brain surgery is the only way out of poverty. Good thing I am white and didnt have to learn that to survive in life.

And again some things are over your head. I'm done. Believe what you believe and don't ever consider anything else.

[Tanning Queen]

Oh, and yes he did get rid of the endorsement from the church. It was on his website and now it isnt.

If you wife called me a dirty injun or whatever you said, Once, I wouldnt blame you, if she repeatedly said negative things about m race, then yes, I would have an issue w ith you too because you married her, you stand by her. You obviously arent offended enough to divorce her over it. It is one thing to disagree on the color of your couch, but if you deeply disagree with a huge issue, like race, then I doubt you would be together.

[FIT]

It's called survival of the FITtest. It sucks if you come from a long line of folks teaching you poor survival skills... really, it does. But it doesn't mean that society owes you better. Take it up with your mom or grandmom or whoever passed on such poor life skills.

I agree with some of that Bob. The problem is that minorities were not given the same survivor "tools" as others.

[Tanning Queen]

If you grew up in an area with many blacks, then why dont you know them? Are you afraid of them?

[Tanning Queen]

Oh I totally disagree! YOu dont need "tools" to get off your ass and work. You dont need "tool" to not shoot someone. You dont need "tools" to not sleep with someone and get pregnant.

[FIT]

It is one thing to disagree on the color of your couch, but if you deeply disagree with a huge issue, like race, then I doubt you would be together

And again you're wrong. We actually have very different views on race (based on how we were raised). But I'm tired of trying to make a case to someone who can't be open-minded and fair. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

[Tanning Queen]

OOOOOOOOOkay. So I am not open minded nor fair. I think it is funny that you cant accept that jsut maybe you arent right. But go ahead, believe and follow blindly. So glad you finally decided to join the voting public, at age 37. You arent much of a patriot are you?

[Tanning Queen]

If your wife went around saying "N*gger this and that" and all blacks are the root of all evil, I would seriously wonder why would be with her if you really had the opposite view. I dont know many wives of KKK members that disagree with their views. Not that I know anyone in the KKK but I have a hard time believing that they wouldnt admit to agreeing to SOME of the views, if not all.

[TonyG]

With his big speech this week, Obama wanted to start a national dialogue on race.

Consider that dialogue started...and right here on Tan Today!

[FIT]

So I am not open minded nor fair. I think it is funny that you cant accept that jsut maybe you arent right.

It's not a right or wrong issue. Jesus Christ you're thick headed. Racial discrimination is history. It's not subjective. Did they teach history in your school?

You arent much of a patriot are you?

Insult me all you want but I have a brain. You have the comprehension skills that rival my 6 year old. Oh and while I'm at it I've been holding this in for a long time ....

NOONE closes up a business with an income of $170,000 a year under any circumstances and it's really sad to use your mother as an excuse for your failures.

Even if you couldn't find someone to run your "thriving" business it could have been sold. Give us a break!

[Brian Oshman]

Originally Posted by FIT

Insult me all you want but I have a brain. You have the comprehension skills that rival my 6 year old. Oh and while I'm at it I've been holding this in for a long time ....

NO_ONE closes up a business with an income of $170,000 a year under any circumstances and it's really sad to use your mother as an excuse for your failures.

Even if you couldn't find someone to run your "thriving" business it could have been sold. Give us a break!

Now you're being a dick. And what the phuck is a noone? Is that like a nooner?

[Brian Oshman]

Originally Posted by FIT

If you have healthcare you are paying for everyone else anyway. The rates are what they are because so few are actually insured.

No you're not. You are paying high rates because the insurance companies are greedy. They are in business to make money and banking on the risk that you will never need it.

The insurance companies do not pay one red cent to the health care facilities if you do not have insurance, the health care facility eats that by themselves. They build that into their costs when they have the balls to charge you $16.00 for a single Tyolenol.

Insurance rates have nothing to do with non insured being provided medical care.