Teeth Whitening devices

[Le]

Anyone buy one yet?

Know anything worth sharing with the class?

[Soo]

Get a 10" x 40" window cling and your in business!

Doing mine at the same time... Selling them like crazy...

We Prefer the Twilight Teeth and the Hollywood Whites over any of the others.
Pros and Cons...
TwilightTeeth.com Hollywood Whites.com
P - Refills in tube easy to apply C - Little capsules
C -Can use sparing P - 1 time use so need more
C - Only has mouth piece P - Has trays or Mouth Piece
P - 25% Carbamide Peroxcide C - 21% Carbamide Peroxcide

Most of the kits from your dentist have a nice fitted mouthpiece of your own teeth ($350.00) and the same is on the net for $125.00 have to send back after you take your own impression (they send u the stuff). Most dental kits are only 15% Carbamide Peroxcide.

I sell both the Twilight Teeth I get from Four Seasons and Hollywood Whites are made by R-Sun. If you don't want to deal with them there are other distributers on the website.

Great Add-ons Usually in our business clients like to look and feel their best. What better way to show that TAN!

[dcjjp1]

I used to sell more, we've slipped lately. Soo, where did you get the cling (or did you make it yourself?) I need that. I have marketing for HW's in every room on the back of the doors in Plexi signholders.

[nebtans]

Can PL the whitening/ tray sets also.

sunshineauctions.com have to email them for dealer price list. MUCH cheaper than the HW or TW kits.

[nebtans]

Le, are you asking about the little kits sold to tan salons? Or, are you asking about the Tooth Whitening equipment for professional results?

There are a number of teeth whitening "Salons" starting to open in the US.

britesmile.com is an example.

There is a company in Australia, do not have name at moment, maybe Google, That sells a HID device that is aimed at a non dentist salon market. Possibly in a SPA or tanning Salon environment. Under $2K for set up I think.

If interested I may be able to find it. They have nice website, even has a video of the device.

[sunsally]

I have one in my salon, and my partner's company is now the exclusive representative to the tanning and hair salon industries for it. We have them all over the country already in just the past 45 days. It is a very high end, professional looking machine - it "LOOKS" like it should be in a dentist's office, so it has instant credibility even before they try it.

VERY pleased with the results. Not ONE client yet who hasn't seen a difference and been pleased.

Basically pays for itself after 25 clients. After that - all profit (well, other than the supplies themselves, but the machine is free and clear at that point).

Pretty easy sell. Teeth whitening is ALL over the place, so they are "pre-sold" on the idea already. Cheaper than a dentist's office, better results and more convenience than at home. It is probably the best "fit" with tanning of any non-tanning option I've seen come around. Tan body, white teeth - what could be better?

Have gone through the approval process with both the Dental Board and Cosmetology Board in my state (and others) and it wasn't a problem.

If you want more info, PM me. I'm happy to give you my number to call to answer more questions, shoot you over info, etc

[nebtans]

Here is an interesting "inside mouth" Whitening system:

Note: These are PRO systems to be purchased by salon owners.

www.teethbleach.net

Or,

Dermavista.com

[capturedsun]

I've been selling the Twilight Teeth for a couple of years now, and everyone loves it. The new formula (25%) is super easy to use, brush on application, dries onto the teeth during the session, tastes good. The box says it's good for 10 applications, but it actually last way more than that, unless you're gobbing it on, which you don't want to do in the first place.

I buy directly from Twilight Teeth, and the window clings are included in the package. I know a lot of people bash the whole teeth whitner things on this site, but hey, it works for me. Turns a good profit. The strips have always gaged me out.

[Drew]

Real Whitening Machines...not the twilight or hollywood....Like the dentist office. $250 -300 per treatment...great results..high customer satisfaction...

Just make sure you are not getting a "home treatment mouthpiece" with a light that is just for show...get the real deal.

[Le]

Originally Posted by Drew

Just make sure you are not getting a "home treatment mouthpiece" with a light that is just for show...get the real deal.

That is what I do not want.

Any other suggestions (devices, not kits) I want the best.

Thanks

[MsHotTan]

Ok I'm confused by this thread. I sell Twilight Teeth also but if there is a more professional looking teeth whitening system (machine) out there I'd definately be interest in one.

[nebtans]

Hottie:

There is a new biz concept popping up. They are called whiteneing salons! These are salons where the only thing they do is whiten the clients teeth using modern dental technology just like the dentists use.

In fact they are operated by dentists usually.

However, there are a few companies who have recognized that a "salon" or spa can also offer these services as well as any dentist.

so there are now companies that offer to Salons Dental quality equipment for teeth whitening. Thin k of the revenue a room can produce at $300 per client!!! The equipment cost less than a base bed! At this time there does not seem to be much regulation.

I think that is what Le is looking for??? rather than the under $50 home/salon treatment kits??

The PL line I mentioned earlier is much like the HW or the TT line..

[nebtans]

Le,

the link I offered.. teethbleach.net is a dental type device

sunshineauctions.com is where I get my PL whitening kits for a fraction of the HW price. These kits have moldable "trays" so th eclient can have the equivalent of a custom fitted mouthpiece like a dentist would use. They also have 35%peroxide for faster results.

[SUNNYDAYS]

Sunsally,

I think I talked to Greg from Wholesale Print Club about these units, do you have any further information you can post or send me a PM or email.

[Ezliving_Jim]

I had a conversation about all this with a dentist in our building.

He told me the dirty secret is that light has no effect on the carbamide peroxide gel. It's a gimmick unsupported by science.

Best results come when the tray is properly formed and fitted.

[nebtans]

Wow! i was wondering when someone would mention that!

True there is no scientific evidence to prove that a light significantly changes anything about teeth whitening other than to make a clients wallet thinner. But hey! That is what they want right?!?!?

Our clients are mostly seeking one thing. They want SEX! How many tanners do you have that tan for Vit D? Not many I am sure. they tan to look sexy. so they can APPEAL to a possible sexual mate!

So they will spend to have sexy teeth. as long as they can feel great about their purchase.

So you see the trays you can sell w/ 35% peroxide should do as well as the dental systems.

But..... Here is the Kicker...

It does not LOOK like a dental quality item!

People WANT to pay top dollar for what LOOKS Good to them.

An Example.

I have a friend who sells shrimp on the roadside. He sells three "Grades" A, b, and c grades each of which have their own price point. If you ask him which is best he will honestly tell you they are all the same shrimp caught in the same net in the gulf of Mexico. Yet customers will buy according to some parameters they have... The elitist will actually Pay MORE for the exact same shrimp at the exact same time. The economizers will buy the lower priced and some people gravitate somewhere in the middle.

So why this discussion... Because If you have a dental light or "Laser" or "plasma" or HID or whatever you call it and it is attached to a fancy telescopic pole and is wired to a computer console or some other "doctor" looking device then the patient sees this is a valuable treatment. In all honesty a three Led flashlight will do as much "Activating" of the peroxide!

We are just trained that if it looks "Medical" then it should be expensive.


Slightly off this thread but still relevant are the "Cold Laser" devices or Led devices sold.. For instance Lumeire.

the thing to buy is a fancy console that simply turns the leds OFF! Any flashing or pulsing at any frequency or Hz is simply technobabble for turning the thing off (meaning that the patient is NOT getting treatment during the time the unit is off) possibly many times per second.

For instance I can show you a "Cold Laser" device with over 500 Leds! these are ultrabright Leds which produce awesome results that sells for under a grand. There is no big box or fancy telescopic pole so the cost is saved. However it does not look "Medical" even though it gives similar results if not better than some "medical" devices.

Anyway... You need a nice looking device to sell $300 "Treatments" There are some of these dental looking devices that are around for about $2K

[Le]

Originally Posted by Ezliving_Jim

I had a conversation about all this with a dentist in our building.

He told me the dirty secret is that light has no effect on the carbamide peroxide gel. It's a gimmick unsupported by science.

Best results come when the tray is properly formed and fitted.

The way I understand the 'Brite Whites' system; it does not use Carbamide Peroxide gel. No heat element to active, new process (new goop/activation).

They could just be full of themsleves. I want to narrow down 2-3 choices and try them myself along with some test subjects.

I believe in B&A pictures, I really do not care what part of the $300.00 process is accomplishing the results; does not matter. What matters is - Does the customer feel they got a good deal, and can I move these services in my business model.

My girl has blinding white teeth, she used the Zoom system and now does a tray once a month & home. If I can get a system that is with in 80% of what Zoom can do, then I will buy one.

Thanks for the input

[dcjjp1]

I have done Zoom at my dentist around the corner from the salon and before I even did it my teeth were the lightest on his chart (If I had to pay for it I wouldn't have done it, but alas I didn't) They lightened up some, but for those that have darker teeth it may help.

[dcjjp1]

Is Twilight teeth that different than HW? I only have sold HW's and shyed away from TT because they were sold through ETS with whom I will not do business with.

[nebtans]

Try the sunshineauctions.com I have greeat results with it. If you are looking for the peroxide.

Zoom! will not sell to anyone without dental degrees there system is not that expensive though. You may want to discuss with a dentist about apartnership arrangement?

As you know, if you can get ZOOM! the name sells hugely! Worth a shot if you have the clientele and the space!

Good luck to you!

BTW, Do you have a tan salon? or a spa? If you are a Spa, have you considered "Medispa" partnering with a Doc? Docs can get zoom also.