Science behind Mineral Oil

[FIT]

Potential customer just left PISSED because I wouldn't let her use this crazy bottle of lotion I've never seen before. I showed her where it said it contained Mineral Oil and she showed me on the back of the bottle it said Perfect for Tanning Beds. Obviously, I held my ground and out the door she went.

So, what is the "science" behind it? I liked to have more than "it damages the acrylics" in my repertoire. I'd like to be able to tell them why.

[Kathe]

First of all it damages the skin. It is a humectant oil, made from petroleum. Crude oil goes through a refinement process and one of the products that comes from that is mineral oil. Because it is a humectant oil it seals the skin and does not allow nutrients to penetrate or toxins to come out of the pores. It is too large to penetrate the skin. However it does draw moisture to itself and will dehydrate the skin with continued use. That's why people are addicted to chapstick. It is 42% petrolatum, another by-product of crude oil and a humectant.

Because we want our clients to have skin that is filled with nutrients, is hydrated and moisture rich to get the best tan, we do not want them to use mineral oil. We want them to use essential oils and vitamin enriched products.

What it does to an acrylic I'm not the expert there. I've seen an acrylic get bubbly and be ruined when someone used baby oil in it. Baby oil is 99% mineral oil and 1% fragrance.

Kathe

[Isltan]

It "bakes" on acrylic, breaking down the integrity of it, leaving roughness and makes it non transparent. Tell them you will bill them for it!

[totaleclipse]

kathe was great to sum it up for people who more than the "acrylic" excuse..

[Le]

Tell her you will let her use it if she agrees to come in and buff your beds with Novus #2.

See how she likes the extra hours!

It will create little "goose bumps" on the bed.

Why would anyone want to put 20,000 year old animal fat on thier skin???

[Brian Oshman]

Mineral oil is light machine oil.

[Din]

The best is when they try using it at my salon....After i explain it to them why they cant....they insist.

I tell them okay, no problem.

My HP bed cost me $60,000, the acrylic costs $3500 to replace. Give me your Credit Card. I will charge you $5000 deposit. I will then have the car buffer and novus #2 waiting for you when you come out. After you have buffed it for an hour and you see it hasn't come out and my acrylic is ruined i'll keep your $5000. When she asks why $5000 if the acrylic costs $3500? Cuz the bed will not be in use for a few days and i will lose income because you insisted on using a $5.00 lotion on my $60,000 bed.

I also tell them to their face....I'd rather lose you entirely as a customer if you insist on using that..and lose out on your $200 a year rather than losing my acrylic and loss of income while it's out of commission.

Then in my conclusion...i end with.....now, if it does that to plastic...what do you think it does to your skin? Good stuff????

They always toss it in the garbage and buy one of my lotions.

I also heard that petroleum is a fat and your skin will absorb it and create cellulite in their fatass. When i tell them that part...before i can finish my sentence, it's tossed out my front door and their credit card is on my counter.

[EliteMike]

haha, DIN, you crack me up

[Din]

thanks......but it's true. And it works! I've never had a problem with outdoor lotions when i explain it that way.

If you thought Din's Trick to selling lotion was good.......use the cellulite thing on them and watch their reaction. That is why i never complain about outdoor lotions.....NEVER had an issue.

I then end with.......And all these problems it will cause....all over $5.00. If you're really hurting for that $5.00. I'll credit you that $5.00 off your lotion purchase if you throw it out in the garbage in front of me.

[Kathe]

You are correct that it actually can enhance cellulite. Any petroleum by-product produces estrogen in our body. Estrogen loves loves loves fat. So it stores itself in fat and doesn't like to let go of it. Cellulite is hard fat. So if they like to be fat and love cellulite, keep on using mineral oil and the like in their skin care.

Kathe

[Din]

It's all about Edumakashun® learn what is affecting your business...and then learn how you can have a comeback to throw in their face. Have your answers ready....and it will slap them in the face.

[Wicked1]

Mineral oil is banned in cosmetics in some countries in europe don't ask me which ones I don't know I could be making it up right now. ( the prescription drugs the dr gave me not making me think straight)

[dbl-a]

As I was reading this, I looked on the back of my girls $20 lotion from Bath and Body. Second ingredient is Petrolatum. It is also the 5th in a bottle of Jergens I found. 3rd in Victoria's Secret. It is the 4th in Lubriderm and Mineral Oil is the 3rd. If it is so bad, why is it in all these products?(for skin, not acrylics)

[Wicked1]

Debra Lynn Dadd : : Q&A ~ Mineral Oil--Is It Safe and Natural?

I found this site that had some info about mineral oil.. I only had a quick look but I did see the interesting WARNINGS

[Kathe]

Originally Posted by dbl-a

As I was reading this, I looked on the back of my girls $20 lotion from Bath and Body. Second ingredient is Petrolatum. It is also the 5th in a bottle of Jergens I found. 3rd in Victoria's Secret. It is the 4th in Lubriderm and Mineral Oil is the 3rd. If it is so bad, why is it in all these products?(for skin, not acrylics)

Because manufacturers don't care about your skin and health, they care about their bank account. That's why I switched to Arbonne 11 years ago. There is so much junk in our skin care and makeup products. Wonder why we are - as a society - getting so sick.

First we make the sun evil and then we lather on stuff that is full of chemicals and other junk. Hmmmm.... Since we started putting chemicals in our body products the cancer rates in this country have skyrocked. When you put a product on your skin, the chemicals are absorbed into the organs of your body within 30 seconds. That is according to the US EPA. I tell people if you are not willing to eat a product you better not put it on your skin because you are essentially doing the same thing. I look at labels in products just the way I do for food. And again, that's why our famiily switched to Arbonne because I don't have to look at every little label. I know they don't use junk in it. I can relax and just use it.

Seriously go through your cabinets at home and see how many things you put on daily have mineral oil, petrolatum, SD alcohol, etc. Then look for preservatives. Most OTC products have 45 - 55% preservatives so they can have a very long shelf life. Up to 25 years in most cases. Even the big cosmetic companies that you see in the mall do this.

We educate people, that's our job. We need to educate them on what they put on their skin as well. They can have great skin, great health and a great tan, too.

On the counter at my salon I have 2 glass dishes. They both have a saltine cracker. One has baby oil, the other water. The water saltine I have to change every day because it gets really gross and mushy. That's because the cracker absorbs the water and gets hydrated. The baby oil one I've had for over 4 years. The cracker is hard as a rock. You can smash it against the counter and it won't break. The mineral oil has just petrified the cracker. That is the best way to show your client why mineral oil is bad for their skin.

Kathe

[Wicked1]

I rekon everyone should do the cracker in baby oil test so they cn see it for themselves...
everyone will be amazed and shocked...

[dbl-a]

Will it work on an oreo? I know you sell Arbonne and sponser the board, but show me some actual studies that say it's bad for you. I'm sure there are plenty out there. Are there any that say it is harmless since it's in so many products?

[kll]

Originally Posted by FIT

Potential customer just left PISSED because I wouldn't let her use this crazy bottle of lotion I've never seen before. I showed her where it said it contained Mineral Oil and she showed me on the back of the bottle it said Perfect for Tanning Beds. Obviously, I held my ground and out the door she went.

So, what is the "science" behind it? I liked to have more than "it damages the acrylics" in my repertoire. I'd like to be able to tell them why.

Fit i like that you used the word "repertoire" ....After i tell them the BLAh about the acrylics,(i dont get into the bad for skin deal) but after i did tell a couple of teens, "hy would you put something on your body that also serves as a great constipation relief aid they did buy the cheapest thing i sell.

[Kathe]

dbl-a

This has nothing to do with Arbonne or sponsoring the board. Due your own due diligance and research. Belinda posted some info on it and as she said many european countries don't allow it in products that go on the skin. The US has little to no regulation in the skin care industry. There is no truth in advertising and the cosmetic industry is worth billions. They are out for the bottom line.

It is no different than the pharmaceutical companies. Do you really think they have your best interest at heart? Or the companies who push SPF's loaded with chemicals? Do they truly have the consumers interest or their own?

I only say Arbonne because I found a company that doesn't use the junk. I'm sure there are others out there as well. I'm only trying to help and passing along my knowledge. Take it or leave it, matters not to me.

Kathe

[Kathe]

Double post - board is acting up