News Flash! Packets Only! AG/SB/CT/DS Discontinues Bottles!

[Ezliving_Jim]

Can you believe the "executive decisions" coming from the titular leader of the indoor tanning industry?
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OK, I confess to a slight exaggeration. The decision on selling only lotion packets has not been made.

They have, however, decided to resume manufacturing Acrylisafe EZ-Dose units only. This is the official AG/SB/CT/DS response to the industry outcry over the discontinuation of Acrylisafe.

No gallon bottles will be filled!

It seems that everybody in the industry tosses out dim bulbs except AG/SB/CT/DS.

Anybody remember reading "The Peter Principle."

"In a hierarchy, every employee tends to rise to his level of incompetence."

[solman]

They no give-a me my gallons, I no use-a their cleaner. WTF is wrong with these people? I can't believe that if the percentage of posters on this forum is a reflection of all salon owners that ETS would even consider discontinuing it. Who ever made the decision should be given a career change.

[yamahaguy]

Agreed. I will only buy it in the gallons. I was told that AG cleaner is the exact same product with a different fragrance. I would have to disagree. We get much better results with Acrylisafe. Used AG for 2 years before switching.

[dcjjp1]

I agree, it's a stupid decision to discontinue the Acrylisafe gallons.

[tantastic]

All righty then. Just made my decision easier on which product to replace with.

[CIT]

Its like McDonalds stop selling fries.

[MR.TANLINES]

I only use gallons..who uses the cartridges?

[Shane]

And to top that off, I hear that they are gonna be 6 cartridges for $12

[frankie]

I use the cartridges. Sometime back when I got some for hardly nothing. I can`t remember the last time I ordered any. I know it has been a long time.

Oh I remember I got mine FREE. ) with points or rewards or something like that.

[Editor-in-Chief]

In theory, shouldn't making decisions in a vacuum eventually cause suffocation and asphyxiation?

[roxie7]

Re: No more Pure eyes solution
How about this product at Sam’s Club? Anyone know?
Sam's Club - ProForce® Sanitizer - 1gal

ProForce® Sanitizer #820593 $4.38
ProForce® Sanitizer at 1 oz. per gallon of water is an effective sanitizer for use on food contact surfaces in 60 seconds at 200 ppm active and 500 ppm hard water against: Campylobacter jejuni, Escherichia coli, Escherichia coli 0157:H7, Klebsiella pneumoniae, Listeria monocytogenes, Salmonella choleraesuis, Shigella sonneii, Staphylococcus aureus, Yersinia enterocolitica.
Use this product on washable hard, nonporous surfaces of: dishes, glassware, eating utensils, cutting boards, blenders, counters, tables, and chairs. Also for use on non-food contact surfaces including barber/salon instruments and tools. Directions for Use:
Immerse salon instruments and tools in a solution of 1ozof this product per gallon of water ratio. Soak for at least 60 seconds. Rinse thoroughly and dry before use. Prepare a fresh solution daily and more often if solution becomes visibly cloudy, or soiled. NOTE: Plastics may remain immersed until ready to use.

1oz per gal (128 oz) • ½ oz per 64 oz (half gal) • ¼ oz per 32 oz (quart) http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/nav...=5&item=388005
ACTIVE INGREDIENTS:
Ocytl decyl dimethyl ammonium chloride 0.780%
Dioctyl dimethyl ammonium chloride 0.312%
Didecyl dimethyl ammonium chloride 0.468%
Alkyl dimethyl benzyl ammonium chloride 1.040%
OTHER INGREDIENTS 97.40%

I mixed the product as per instructions: color is slightly tinted pink, almost clear. At a distance, you would not know if employees mixed correctly. Not as tinted as CT Acrylicsafe product.

[Ezliving_Jim]

Grainger Industrial Supply: Disinfectant,1 G 2U151

DIDECYL DIMETHYL AMMONIUM CHLORIDE 2.43%

N-ALKYL DIMETHYL BENZYL AMMONIUM CHLORIDE 1.62%

OCTYL DIMETHYL AMINE OXIDE 1-2%

SODIUM SALT OF ETHYLENEDIAMINE TETRAACETIC ACID 1-3%

We are testing this product. I was recommended to me by a large tanning salon chain operator. So far, it seems to be doing a very good job. It is a clear 64:1 concentrate mix with a strong lemon scent. (Also made as Pine 64 with a pine scent.) $10.76 / gallon. Available at your local Grainger branch store.

[roxie7]

Is this product is acrylic / eyewear safe?
Lemon Fresh Disinfectant Cleaner

ProForce Lemon Disinfectant Cleaner #902184 $5.88 gal
http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/navigate.do?dest=5&item=322756

Directions for Use
Application
Apply use-solution, thoroughly wetting hard, non-porous surfaces.
Treated surface must remain wet for 10 minutes for proper disinfection.
Wipe, dry or allow to air dry.
Note:
Rinse all surfaces that come in contact with food such as countertops, appliances, tables and stovetops with potable water before use.
For spray applications, spray 6-8 inches from the surface, rub with brush, sponge or cloth. Do not breathe spray.
Where to Use
Floors Walls Tables Chairs Bathroom fixtures Basins Bathtubs Glazed tile Cabinets Fiberglass Vinyl Plastic Countertops Sinks Appliances Refrigerators Urinals Toilet bowls and surfaces Tubs Stove tops Door knobs and handles

poly(oxy-1,2-ethanediyl), .alpha.-(nonylphenyl)-.omega.-hydroxy-
acetic acid, (ethylenedinitrilo)tetra-, tetrasodium salt
quaternary ammonium compounds, di-c8-10-alkyldimethyl, chlorides
quaternary ammonium compounds, benzyl-c12-c16-alkyldimethyl, chlorides

Grainer also carries 3M products for Twist n Fill Dispensing systems.
Easy for employees to mix pre measured correct dosage.

Sanitizer 16L and Disinfectant 5L Quat. Low Flow for bottle filling.

Grainger Industrial Supply: 16l Sanitizer 2BW55 1 minute
Apply sanitizer with a cloth, sponge, mop, coarse trigger sprayer, or by soaking. Eating utensils and drinking glasses must be sanitized by immersion. Thoroughly wet all surfaces for at least one minute. After required dwell time, drain thoroughly and air dry. Do not rinse.

Grainger Industrial Supply: 5l Disinfectant Quat 10 mins
Disinfection/Virucidal*/ Fungicidal/Mold and Mildew Control Directions: Apply ready-to-use solution to hard, non-porous surfaces, thoroughly wetting the surface with a cloth, mop, sponge or sprayer. Treated surfaces should remain wet for 10 minutes.
Grainger Industrial Supply: Disinfectant,2 L 4HN94

decisions, decisions, decisions......

[Editor-in-Chief]

I have spoken to several chemical cleaning experts and there is no "spray and wipe" sanitizing product on the market. All products are supposed to stay wet on the surface for at least 10 minutes.

When told of the active ingredient in Acrylisafe, the experts said that it should stay wet on the surface for 10 minutes to do it's job right.

So, nobody has ever used it right.

That said, who has the best information?

I can't trust AG, due to their self-serving decision to discontinue Acrylisafe gallons. And, I hate AG Blue.

These are uncharted waters.

[jbizz]

Hi all,

After seeing all this talk, I decided to take to look into the issue of acrylic cleaners a bit more. It can be a difficult topic to research. Here are a few LOOKING FIT articles that address the topic:

http://www.lookingfit.com/articles/regulatory/727_491regulator.html

http://www.lookingfit.com/articles/equipment/74h249594828055.html


Here is the link to South Carolina’s list of approved cleaners: www.scdhec.gov/health/radhlth/tanningsani.pdf.
(I’m not sure when it was last updated).

Salon disinfectants include EPA-registered, hospital-level, liquid disinfectant products that are virucidal, bactericidal and fungicidal. Tanning sanitizer should meet two criteria to be acceptable:
1. It must be a sanitizer or disinfectant (ingredients include a quaternary ammonium- not
ammonia- compound, such as n-Alkyl dimethyl benzyl ammonium chloride) AND
2. It must be intended for use on acrylic (or tanning beds) or protective eyewear, as applicable.

Cleaners containing ammonia—such as Windex or 409—should never be used on tanning bed acrylic. Products containing ammonia will cause a fogging of the acrylic which will block the transmission of UV rays from the lamps in the tanning bed.

If you have more questions, feel free to e-mail me at jbizzozero@vpico.com). I'll do my best to get you the information you are looking for. And that goes for anything else you have a question or concern about—one thing the LOOKING FIT/TanToday staff would like to do on this site is help you find the answers to the questions that you post. If we don't know, we'll take those questions to someone who can answer them and report back.

[brownsuze]

According to Smart Tan, disinfecting takes place after 1 minute, SANITIZING takes place after 10 minutes.

Semantics!

[Amy E. Hamaker]

Hmmmm...that should be the other way around. Proper sanitation is to remove 99% of pathogens on a surface. It usually consists of removing any debris, bacteria, viruses, etc., from a surface with some kind of cleaning agent.

Disinfection destroys harmful microorganisms on a surface--which sounds similar, but isn't the same. It usually consists of using an EPA registered, hospital grade disinfectant on a surface for 10 minutes (although directions differ by the manufacturer.)

Sterilization is the removal of all living organisms and pathogens from a surface, but this is an unnecessary step in a salon environment.

Although they do sound similar, they really are very different things. There's a teeny, tiny, microscopic world of a difference between sanitizing and disinfecting.

--Amy E. Hamaker

[roxie7]

Originally Posted by brownsuze

According to Smart Tan, disinfecting takes place after 1 minute, SANITIZING takes place after 10 minutes.

Semantics!

Um, other way around. I think you may have a typo.
Sanitizing is 1 minutes wet (soak) time.
Disinfecting is 10 minutes wet (soak) time.

Right on with Semantics!!!

[Editor-in-Chief]

Welcome back, Amy!

(For the record, Amy ain't a "rookie.")

The S.C. list was enlightening. I haven't heard of most of those products before.

[Ezliving_Jim]

So, what is the popular choice for acrylic cleaner now that Acrylisafe gallons are history?