Royal Sun UV SCAN horizontal....sucks

[oh_night_divine14]

Is it just me or is the Royal Sun UV scan a waste of money? I have never seen a single customer get any color from it. Anyone else try it?

[Glowtanning530]

What is it?
I am out of the loop

[Rob]

it sucks and it produces SSSOOOOOOO much heat!

[Rob]

[oh_night_divine14]

It's a high pressure machine that is big and yellow and rotates around the customer....I must say that it bears an impressive design- but that's about it. I just feel that my level 1 beds have been getting people darker than this hunk of junk.

A hunk of junk that cost me $35,000 outright! Could have bought a Corvette with that!

Dammit I wish I leased!

[Tanning Queen]

Why would you have wanted to lease it? Woulda ended up costing you more! HOw about selling it and getting something else?

[oh_night_divine14]

Originally Posted by Rob

it sucks and it produces SSSOOOOOOO much heat!

Not to mention it's so LOUD! Should I try and sell it while it's still pretty new with low hours on it? I already lowered the price to (brace yourself) $20 A SESSION!!!!!!!!!

FOR HIGH PRESSURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[oh_night_divine14]

Well, since I made a stupid, impulsive decision to get the UV SCAN over the MATRIX....should I perhaps sell the UV SCAN in return for a MATRIX? How well does the MATRIX work??

[oh_night_divine14]

Originally Posted by Tanning Queen

Why would you have wanted to lease it? Woulda ended up costing you more! HOw about selling it and getting something else?

Actually, you're right about the leasing. I don't even know why I said that

[sunsally]

Originally Posted by Tanning Queen

Why would you have wanted to lease it? Woulda ended up costing you more! HOw about selling it and getting something else?

She would have wished she leased it, because instead of paying $35K of her own cash and not having that to go toward operating expenses and other items now, she would have gotten the use of a $35K piece of equipment for less than $30/day or less than the price of a normal walk-in HP visit!

This would be a pretty easy goal to meet - sell at least ONE visit in the HP each day! Sell 2 - and see a profit!

Meanwhile, her 35K would be in her bank account, for her to draw from, to help cover rent in the slow season, or to pay for advertising (a shiny postcard from Chronos Marketing showing the UV Scan and advertising 'Your Florida vacation for less than the price of a bus ticket'?) etc.



Now - since you DIDN'T lease it - at least all is not lost! Instead of selling it:

a. read the threads here on "How to sell HP"!

b. Have you checked the voltage to the unit to make sure it is in the best performance range?

c. Do you ALWAYS insist your clients use a HIGH QUALITY lotion with that bed since lotion use is even MORE critical with HP than other units?

d. Do you and your staff think it is good, use it yourself, and recommend it to clients - or think "it sucks"?

e. If it is a lower UVB unit, do you have regular users "mix it up" between this unit and your best VHR, so they are getting the UVB needed to stimulate the melanin to have something to get tan the next visit?


Dropping price is NOT the answer! Figure out HOW to make it work. It WILL, if you work with it.

[Ezliving_Jim]

I can understand why it is hot.

I don't understand why it doesn't tan. What's wrong?

Can someone clue me in?

[Brian Oshman]

Originally Posted by sunsally

She would have wished she leased it, because instead of paying $35K of her own cash and not having that to go toward operating expenses and other items now, she would have gotten the use of a $35K piece of equipment for less than $30/day or less than the price of a normal walk-in HP visit!

This would be a pretty easy goal to meet - sell at least ONE visit in the HP each day! Sell 2 - and see a profit!

Meanwhile, her 35K would be in her bank account, for her to draw from, to help cover rent in the slow season, or to pay for advertising (a shiny postcard from Chronos Marketing showing the UV Scan and advertising 'Your Florida vacation for less than the price of a bus ticket'?) etc.



Now - since you DIDN'T lease it - at least all is not lost! Instead of selling it:

a. read the threads here on "How to sell HP"!

b. Have you checked the voltage to the unit to make sure it is in the best performance range?

c. Do you ALWAYS insist your clients use a HIGH QUALITY lotion with that bed since lotion use is even MORE critical with HP than other units?

d. Do you and your staff think it is good, use it yourself, and recommend it to clients - or think "it sucks"?

e. If it is a lower UVB unit, do you have regular users "mix it up" between this unit and your best VHR, so they are getting the UVB needed to stimulate the melanin to have something to get tan the next visit?


Dropping price is NOT the answer! Figure out HOW to make it work. It WILL, if you work with it.

This unit is a Boat Anchor®! There is no amount of reading on this site or any other on how to sell HP to make this unit work for her. It is the biggest hot box, fire trap piece of $h!t ever made. The UV Scam is even worse then the Velocity.

Remember the stand up version of this unit? The only thing that made the stand up better then this one is that in the stand up you could get out and run a lot faster.

This is the only room that this bed belongs in:

[Brian Oshman]

This is the POS that uses 70, yes 70 Varius lamps. This junker takes over $6K to relamp. You can't even make enough money on this POS to pay for the lamps let alone pay for a lease or return on your investment.

[EliteMike]

If it sucks remember you can't polish a turd.

If highline is that low then I had some really bad advice given to me by some people in this industry. Myself and my cosigner at the time had really good credit scores and the cosigner was sitting on LOTS of money.

At the same time, the mentality of it's only 1 session per day or 1.75 in my case is what got me in trouble. a 30 dollar sell has has not been easy in my town when the salon chain sells their velocity at 20 bucks

[sunsally]

Highline is that low. As I tell people all the time - BAD leases are NOT smart. GOOD leases are. Big difference. HUGE difference.

As far as it being a "mistake" to think of it as 1 or 2 sessions/day -- the bottom line is, either you do a GOOD business plan, cost estimates, drive the revenue, etc --- enough to support what you get into - or you do not.

At the end of the day - people take on a project that costs however much they spend - whether it is their money, their parent's money, a bank's money or a lease company's money. ANY of those has to be "paid back" for a project to be considered successful. Using your own money doesn't mean there are no "payments". There should be - including the interest you are losing.

If payments can't be made, it is rare that the costs are too high - it is more likely that the revenues are too low.

People tend to overestimate revenues - and underestimate costs. And they tend to overspend on non-relevant stuff (e.g. lunch out, TP for their home) and underspend on the stuff that will boost revenues (quality advertising).

A $30 sell for HP should be very easy if the equipment is good quality. The bottom line is that salon owners rarely "salon hop", and really don't know that much about other salon's equipment, pricing, etc. FIRST you "hook" them to try the unit - with a great teaser trial package. THEN you "sell" them, based on their results.

Only way it doesn't work is if there are no results. If the UV Scan truly can NOT perform - then this is quite unfortunate.

[Le]

It does suck, I metered it and tanned in it (the lay down) in Vegas a few years back. Super hot and almost zero results. I posted the pics, but can't find them now.

[John]

Stick with the Italian companies when it comes to HP.
Germans for VHR
Americans for base beds. (if there are any left)

[sunsally]

I don't know this unit - is there ANYTHING that can be done to make it perform?

-Different lamps?

-Different session times (if allowed in your state)?

-Different combination of beds (e.g.VHR then this one, trading off)?

-Different filter glasses?

-Different voltage (e.g. run it higher - but then maybe even hotter!)?

ANY thing?? Or just "sorry for your luck"?

[Brian Oshman]

Originally Posted by oh_night_divine14

A hunk of junk that cost me $35,000 outright!

Let me ask this, with all of the other proven stuff on the market, why would you spend $35K on this POS? For another $5K you could have had a Magic.

I know, I know...cuz it looked cool...

[navigatin1]

Maybe swap out the lamps for "heat lamps" and roast up some turkeys!!!! Mmmmmmmmm tanning and turkey legs.