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Join Date: Nov 2004
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Wow, when I commented on the Legend bed in the other post I had no idea it was ETS. They def. have eye appeal.
What do they meter, how well do they tan? Also someone stated that the lamps are all the same distance away from body, does that mean on the bench as well and how did they do that? Dang I hate I missed THIS show. ![]()
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I talked to them at ETS they quoted $13999 installed for the 12 min Legend, I am really considering this bed for that price. Has anyone tanned in one?
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no air condition in it? I don't know if I will going to buy one without it.
What do you think?
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548 has 48 x180w lamps (10 min), the 448 has 48 x160w lamps (12 min), They both have electronic ballasts, 4 x 500w facials, and 8 x 25w shoulder tanners. It has nice led effect lighting, voice guide, mp3 ready. It looks really nice.
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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Being a salon with smaller rooms and and power issues this bed is perfect for us. So perfect we bought one. Saved us from having to knock out walls and rebuild rooms. Can't wait for delivery.
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"548 has 48 x180w lamps (10 min)"
Boy, the 548 sure changed. I have a 2007 548. It's a hybrid with 100w bench 160 sides and canopy. Still a 48 lamp bed and is 12 minutes instead of 10. Does this mean that I will be able relamp my old 548 with 180w lamps all the way around? That makes it the same as my 648 which is a 12 minute bed with 180w all around. |
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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I've got a new catalog from ETS with all their new line up in it - very nice! The catalog states for the Legend cost is between 16,9 and 17,9K. The Envy cost is between 8,9 and 9,9K.
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We bought an envy @ the show. It was delivered on Thursday, I haven't got to see it yet because I went in the hospital the day it came but my staff loves it! Plus we were able to fit it in a room we had am old 20 min. Bed in
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I should've mentioned that the "X-Factor" is a hybrid also, 120's in the bench, 180's in the canopy.
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160 watt lamps are F-71, or 71 inches long. 180 watt lamps are F79 or 79 inches long or 200 cm or 2m which is where all of the terms come from. I would bet that the 10 minute version has F-71 lamps overdriven with 180 watt ballasts instead of F-79.
An F-79 lamp powered at 180 watts will have thew same power as an F-71 160 watt lamp powered at 160 watts because the extra length of the longer lamp needs more power to reach the same output but if the 160 watt lamp is overdriven then it will have more output and shorter Te time. F-71 VHO lamps will handle 140-200 watts. There are two power factors in lamps, HO and VHO. HO range in 80 to 120 watts and VHO range in 140 to 250 watts. The ballast determines the actual power fed to the lamp. It will not put out more by changing to a higher wattage lamp. The lamp wattage labeling is marketing. There are only two ranges of lamps and then there are given sizes. It doesn't work like incandescent lamps where you change from a 40 watt bulb to a 60 watt bulb and you get more light. That is because the bulb has a filament directly connected to the line source and that load determines the output. With a florescent lamp, the ballast governs the power delivered to the lamp. It will only receive so much power from the ballast and that is it. There is no filament in a florescent lamp (well except for the heater cathodes that heat up that lamp to start it). There is a gas fill and mercury that vaporizes and carries the electricity from one end to the other end of the tube sort of like a constant mini lightning bolt inside the tube. There is no physical connection from one end to the other. The mini lightning bolt excites the powder coating on the inside of the lamp tube (phosphorus) and makes it glow and emits light. The strength of this lightning bolt is determined by the ballast and will only be as great as the ballast allows it to be so no matter what lamp is put in there it will only be driven with so much power. Of course we come back to the HO and VHO. HO means high output and VHO means Very High Output. The components inside the two types of lamps have different characteristics to the components in the VHO lamp will tolerate higher wattage and the components in the HO lamp will not inhibit the lower wattage fed to them. This is why you can use a HO lamp in a VHO setup and it will light but it will burn out in a short amount of time but a VHO lamp will struggle to light in a HO setup because it is designed to tolerate more wattage and without that it will not run properly. This is to control the cooling zones at the ends of the lamps. Did you notice that the first 3 inches of VHO lamps don't look like they are lit and HO lamps look like they are lit all the way to the end? This is to provide extra cooling to the lamp interior for proper operation and output. Anyway, more on this later.
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