Lamp advice

[dbl-a]

I will basically need to relamp all the beds at the salon I am buying. Looking for suggestions and pricing for lamps.
Here's the lineup:
Level 1 - 4 Heartland 134 Ovations(100w)

Level 2 - 2 Heartland 154 Bravos(160w top and four 400w facials and 100w bottom) and 1 Heartland 2M (160w)

Level 3 - 1 Ergoline 600 Classic

Level 4 - 1 Dr Muller Omega HP

Level 5 - 1 2002 Matrix L33

[Afelts]

I have had good results with Beach Sun. They have been my favorite lamp so far. Customers love them.

[jamaicabreeze]

Call John @ URI (800) 247-3251 . He should be able to help you with the lamps.

[dbl-a]

Ya I figured a few people would say to call John. I planned on it, but wondering if anyone has any of these beds and what they're using and maybe even how much they paid.

[jamaicabreeze]

For the 100w - $10+ @
For 160w-2M- $20+
For HP- $85+

I say put aside about $8K for lamps.

[northtanman]

Put Cosmolux 9k90's or VHR's in the 600...whatever in the level ones...facials from future industries or URI...

[sunsally]

Originally Posted by dbl-a

Ya I figured a few people would say to call John. I planned on it, but wondering if anyone has any of these beds and what they're using and maybe even how much they paid.

People say to call John because he has consistently, for years, been on these boards supporting salon owners with "free" advice and for those that DO call him, he offers the right lamp - and gives a very fair price! If he did not -- SOMEBODY would have called him out on it over the years. Never. Not one negative comment about him ever.

URI is a quality company because of people like John. There are tons of companies that will sell you lamps. But very few others who I would take "advice" on, who I can tell my mix, my "strategy", describe the type of customers I get -- and get the right recommendation for MY salon.

Save yourself time. Call John. He'll quote you a fair price and you'll get the right lamps.

[movieking]

I have 9 of the 134's and 4 of the Bravo's. We have stuck with the Rave lamps from Heartland because the customers like them and so do the employees. No sense in fixing something that's not broke is the way I look at it.

The 100w lamps are on sale today at heartland also for I think $10.50.

[Jones]

You need to think your stategy out prior to just putting lamps in...no matter who you purchase from. Make sure to define your levels and offer a great tanning experience.

[sunsally]

Agree with Jones completely! That is one of the things I have talked to John about when I order (for my salon and helping others) and he "gets it".

3 different salons can have the same bed but wanting to establish the performance 3 different ways for their customers depending what other equipment they have, competition, customer preferences, etc

A wrong lamp decision is expensive.

[dbl-a]

"A wrong lamp decision is expensive."
I agree, and something you have to live with for months. I appreciate the help.

[Drew]

There was some potential bad advice up there.

1. the 600 turbo can be 12 or 15 mins. Most all vhr lamps will work ok in it at 15.

But for 12 mins..you need to be smart.
I use the Supra VHOR lamps for a kick ass 12 min tan on that bed.
Super high uva with UNDER a 12 min 4 med tan.

The Sig HP's are a bit milder in the B but would also be good.

CosmoluxVHR or VHR TT are just not all that. I would never purchase those lamps ever.

For HP lamps...I am sure most people now know that the Radium lamps sold in the USA as "Supra" are the strongest and longest lasting lamps.

Personally, I don't care if it is just a facial lamp how strong it is...all facials are pretty strong if they are not 400 watt clip ins.

But for HP BEDS...go with the strongest lamps. The glass has solarized on any used bed and dropped down in uvb transparency...the extra B on the Supra's will bring it back up like new and the Supras just never burn out in under 1000 hours from all my experience.

[solarmeter®]

Good advice... from somebody who's been around the horn.

Well - not Cape Horn yet... but you know what I mean. I don't - too many MGD's which Drew still hates because he drank a solarized one once. Damn clear bottles. Seems to be OK for Corona beach ads however... I love those ads.

[northtanman]

Drew, do you like the Supra VHOR & Signiture HP's better than cosmolux 9k90's for 12 minute tan?

[dbl-a]

Sorry, I falied to mention that the 600 I decided to keep is a 15 min bed. The Ovations, Bravos and Matrix are also 15, although the current owner has been running the Matrix as a 12 min bed. Claims that TA et it up that way even though the stickers on it say 15 min and the timer counts down from 15 to 3! It also hasn't been lamped in close to 2 years. Only has 1500 hours on it though. Do you guys think I should run it at 15 min?

[sunsally]

Absolutely.

Every bed in my salon is 15 minutes (other than the standup). I chose it for the best combination of efficiency and performance.

15 minutes at the lower levels (instead of 20) to move them in and out quickly.

15 minutes at the higher levels (instead of 12) to maximize the bronzing rays and performance.

15 minute Matrix at the top.

[dbl-a]

Good to hear. I assume he was running it at 12 min to be cheap. I think that by relamping it and bumping it up to 15 min along with some marketing will get some customers back in it. I am very excited! I hope to close the deal on the 31st.

[dbl-a]

Anyone know or use this guy or company? PMd me after reading this thread.
RobertK
Superior UV Technologies
888-526-7712 x77

[Din]

who cares....use John at URI. Forget everyone else.

LSI Signature HP's are a great lamp...

Supra for HP are good HP lamps
Heraeus HP lamps are also good.

If you have a standup and want a good kick as well as great browning...alternate Solglass with a high B lamps and you're laughing.

[northtanman]

Originally Posted by dbl-a

Anyone know or use this guy or company? PMd me after reading this thread.
RobertK
Superior UV Technologies
888-526-7712 x77

He can save you money and sells radium facials...don't think you'll find any complaints on these either??