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EliteMike · 15th January 2008, 02:00 AM

I have 3 Prosun Lumina Cs with softpower facials. 15 min beds. I'm considering lowering the voltage on them. They are great performers with the lamps we have in them. Some people will never upgrade out of them. Is it worth it to change them around?

EliteMike · 17th January 2008, 10:50 PM

any one??

mgj · 18th January 2008, 12:57 AM

What do you want to do, knock the voltage down at the buck boost?

It would make them underperform, but shouldn't normal lamp usage do the same?

What do you have coming in? 240??
What do you have the beds at? 235??

then what set the buck boost to knock another 12-16-24 off??

Is this your idea?

Oshman may be able to walk you through it, or a buddy whose an electrician. I'd go that route, I do not like 220 or 221.

EliteMike · 18th January 2008, 01:27 AM

I'm trying to decide if its worth having them underperform. My level 1 and 2s are too close to each other

mgj · 18th January 2008, 11:21 AM

I think salon owners capitulate over nonsense like this more than we should. I have asked numerous tanners what type of beds they tanned in before, the answers were: turbo beds, red beds, browning beds, hot beds, ..... You get the point. We worry about the little things, they do not notice those as much.

I'd relamp your 2's to a more aggressive lamp, leave your ones alone, stretch any lamp change.

EliteMike · 18th January 2008, 12:40 PM

The 1s have higher B, less comfort, weaker face system, the 2s are contoured wth surround sound, slightly Higher 5.0 reading, and wicked strong face system.

mgj · 18th January 2008, 08:49 PM

If you have buck boost's it should not be hard for a knowledgable guy to do. That said I would not attempt it, but one of my good friends is an electrician, so it would be a couple of beers. I am sure a guy like Oshman could do it also, but any good electrician can read the schematic and figure it out. If you do not have one I found one on the web when ai googled it.

EliteMike · 19th January 2008, 10:33 AM

I have the schematics and I understand them, I wired them. I guess I just want to know if i SHOULD do it

Brian Oshman · 20th January 2008, 10:47 AM

Lowering the voltage will cook the components over time. Especially the caps. THe bed needs to run at 230 volts.

Take the spags out of it and add non reflector lamps. Level 1, no facials, no reflector lamps and still run it at 15 min. Then it will no longer compete with the level 2.

15th January 2008, 02:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
EliteMike Hall of Famer Join Date: May 2007 Location: D.C. Posts: 4,510	downgrading a bed I have 3 Prosun Lumina Cs with softpower facials. 15 min beds. I'm considering lowering the voltage on them. They are great performers with the lamps we have in them. Some people will never upgrade out of them. Is it worth it to change them around?

17th January 2008, 10:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
EliteMike Hall of Famer Join Date: May 2007 Location: D.C. Posts: 4,510	Re: downgrading a bed any one??

18th January 2008, 12:57 AM	#3 (permalink)
mgj Super Star Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: chicago Posts: 527	Re: downgrading a bed What do you want to do, knock the voltage down at the buck boost? It would make them underperform, but shouldn't normal lamp usage do the same? What do you have coming in? 240?? What do you have the beds at? 235?? then what set the buck boost to knock another 12-16-24 off?? Is this your idea? Oshman may be able to walk you through it, or a buddy whose an electrician. I'd go that route, I do not like 220 or 221.

18th January 2008, 01:27 AM	#4 (permalink)
EliteMike Hall of Famer Join Date: May 2007 Location: D.C. Posts: 4,510	Re: downgrading a bed I'm trying to decide if its worth having them underperform. My level 1 and 2s are too close to each other

18th January 2008, 11:21 AM	#5 (permalink)
mgj Super Star Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: chicago Posts: 527	Re: downgrading a bed I think salon owners capitulate over nonsense like this more than we should. I have asked numerous tanners what type of beds they tanned in before, the answers were: turbo beds, red beds, browning beds, hot beds, ..... You get the point. We worry about the little things, they do not notice those as much. I'd relamp your 2's to a more aggressive lamp, leave your ones alone, stretch any lamp change.

18th January 2008, 12:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
EliteMike Hall of Famer Join Date: May 2007 Location: D.C. Posts: 4,510	Re: downgrading a bed The 1s have higher B, less comfort, weaker face system, the 2s are contoured wth surround sound, slightly Higher 5.0 reading, and wicked strong face system.

18th January 2008, 08:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
mgj Super Star Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: chicago Posts: 527	Re: downgrading a bed If you have buck boost's it should not be hard for a knowledgable guy to do. That said I would not attempt it, but one of my good friends is an electrician, so it would be a couple of beers. I am sure a guy like Oshman could do it also, but any good electrician can read the schematic and figure it out. If you do not have one I found one on the web when ai googled it.

19th January 2008, 10:33 AM	#8 (permalink)
EliteMike Hall of Famer Join Date: May 2007 Location: D.C. Posts: 4,510	Re: downgrading a bed I have the schematics and I understand them, I wired them. I guess I just want to know if i SHOULD do it

20th January 2008, 10:47 AM	#9 (permalink)
Brian Oshman Off The Chain Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Sun Doctor, Califon, NJ Posts: 7,042	Re: downgrading a bed Lowering the voltage will cook the components over time. Especially the caps. THe bed needs to run at 230 volts. Take the spags out of it and add non reflector lamps. Level 1, no facials, no reflector lamps and still run it at 15 min. Then it will no longer compete with the level 2. __________________ Three can keep a secret if two are dead.

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