Philips reviews?

[dbl-a]

Who is, has used Philips lamps and what do you think about them? I am not lazy, I did search the threads. Can't decide on lamps still.

[northtanman]

i ALREADY TOLD YOU I HAD TERRIBLE LUCK WITH PHILLIPS HP'S...WERE BURNING OUT AT 350 HOURS.

[dbl-a]

dON'T YELL AT ME!

[W8INLINE]

Are you talking LP or HP lamps?

For LP I've used phillips swifts, advantage and the 808's. Depending on the bed you'll be using them the advantage or 808's might be to agressive of a lamp. Swifts tanned great while the other two types were a bit too much for the average skin type tanner. With the swifts I got a 25% dropoff at around 550-600 hours, but the beds they were in ran pretty hot.

[dbl-a]

Thanks for your review. Anyone else? My local bed tech only carries Philips but he will install them the first time. Since I am re lamping the whole salon it will help me a lot. Prices seem ok but I just don't know.

[W8INLINE]

Oh......so my word is not good enough??????

[northtanman]

i was'nt yelling...just using caps maybe someone should just lie to you and tell you to go for the phillips. You ask advice....again, again, and again...and it comes back to you the same...supra and radium which makes supra. Get on with it. Pretty soon you won't be getting any advice as you don't seem to be hearing what you want to hear. Buy the phillips and have your guy install them. My god, you are going into the tanning business and can't install a facial lamp? You're in for a quick trip into tanning and out. Do you know how to install a light bulb? its nearly that easy. Sorry to sound this negative way...but you're asking for advice and not taking it from people whom have been in the this industry for years.

[Din]

If it's a low pressure lamp you're looking for....i'd go with LSI singature series...HP.

For Highpressure facial lamps, Radium/Supra..same thing. and even Heraeus is a good performer.

Just cuz your disty only carries Philips...doesn't mean you settle for them. Call John at URI and have him ship them to you.

If you can't install a lamp yourself....you're heading for disaster. Time to start learning...the hard way.

[solarmeter®]

Also.... if you can't read or use UV meters you may likewise be headed for disaster.

Meter all your old lamp beds NOW so you can see the improvement with whatever kind of new lamps you get. Then keep metering the new ones as they gradually fall 30% below new readings - so you'll know when to change them.

At least CALL John at URI and discuss what lamps work best in what beds at what Te times before you jump off the cliff. Certainly certain Philips are fine for certain applications - but at least get some straight scoop first.

(Certain used 3 times in one sentence... alliteratation³)

[dbl-a]

No offense to anyone, but I am trying to get opinions from someone besides the 10 postwhores that are always dishing out the same info! It wouldn't make sense to listen to one guy over the next just cause he says so. I value many of your opinions, but they really are just that, opinions. I have spoken to John at URI and Robert at UV and got 2 very different qoutes on two different kinds of lamps. The guy that is installing my beds generally only carries Philips. I'm sure part of that reason is the $ he makes off them. I am trying to get the current owner to help me with the first lamp changes as I really don't know how. How could I if I never have done it? I think I have done a good job researching on the net and through contacts, now I just need the actual hands on experience.
Steve- I will be contacting you for at least a 5.0 meter and maybe 7.0. Feel free to send me a quote and advice in a PM. Thanks!

[Rob]

We relamped one of our 240's with philips. it metered 20 points higher than all other lamps we have ever used.

[Rob]

We have philips HP lamps in our ultrabronze 812. they didn't meter as high as the heraus and Supra, but have out lasted the Heraus in lamp life. Still tanned great

However, the 812 runs cooler than my other HP units because it has all the same fans as an 818, but one less column of lights, so this would probably acount for the longer lamp life

[Rob]

When we relamp our 818's and 812 we will be using Supra as we have like those the best.

[northtanman]

Originally Posted by dbl-a

No offense to anyone, but I am trying to get opinions from someone besides the 10 postwhores that are always dishing out the same info! It wouldn't make sense to listen to one guy over the next just cause he says so. I value many of your opinions, but they really are just that, opinions. I have spoken to John at URI and Robert at UV and got 2 very different qoutes on two different kinds of lamps. The guy that is installing my beds generally only carries Philips. I'm sure part of that reason is the $ he makes off them. I am trying to get the current owner to help me with the first lamp changes as I really don't know how. How could I if I never have done it? I think I have done a good job researching on the net and through contacts, now I just need the actual hands on experience.
Steve- I will be contacting you for at least a 5.0 meter and maybe 7.0. Feel free to send me a quote and advice in a PM. Thanks!

So, now i'm a postwhore!? Well aaron you just blew it! You keep getting the same comments from us salon owners, but yet you keep asking the same questions. Grow up and make some decisions yourself. People like yourself opening up tanning salons is why our industry is going downhill. Theres too many uneducated owners opening below average salons. I remember a few posts back, you thought it was crazy to have $100 lotions! That you did'nt think they could be any better than a $25 lotion which was too expensive as well. Well, newbie good luck making it in our business!
I've had great experience on these posts and great advice from other owners..and have taken the advice. You should stop asking so many of the same questions and move on. When numerous owners tell you something is great....take it and move on to the next question. Stop beating it to death!
signed, postwhore
what does din say? Fak em

[CIT]

Its all trial and error. Learning curve. Heraeus 24/50 HP lamp wipes the floor with Supra 500 watt plug-in in Ergo 600 facials for sho. You'll get better responce from me if i know what beds you are putting those Philips in.

[solarmeter®]

Are you talking LP or HP lamps?

He never answered that question.

Probably tubes.

[northtanman]

He's been asking about HP's but i think he should go with the guy whom will install them for him...don't go with the BEST as he does'nt install. (supra/radium's) We all know how hard it is to install a facial lamp

[plucack]

Opinions are like pie-holes...we all have one. My personal opinion is that Philips LP lamps are great for MOST applications. Nice combination of quality and price. The Philips Advantage XPT 160-watt lamp has been very popular with many of my clients. One heads-up on Philips LP lamps...they don't like to be started by the Cosmedico electronic starters(Philips electronic starters-no problem). The Philips 400-watt HP is the industry standard and a great lamp. Many of the higher-wattage HP lamps by Philips are just so-so. Again, if I knew what bed you're relamping, I'd have better input for you.

[solarmeter®]

Opinions without UV meters are like pie-holes...

[UV MAN]

For low pressure lamps I have stuck with Phillips for a few years now. I like them much better then Light Source which I used for 7 years prior. Better output and lamp life. LS really has some bad batches of lamps.

I also throw in a few Hereaus in the 160W LP lamps which are also very good.

As far as HP Phillips is not the best. Still like Hereaus the best for my needs. Keep in mind that no ONE Company has the best HP lamp for every level of lamp. Hereaus & Supra seem to the most
complete lines as far as HP lamps when it comes to output.

I agree, Phillips LP lamps sucks when it comes to getting them started with elec starters. Am I the only one that thinks elec starters are OVER RATED?