Upgrade Lamps????

[Cassodo325]

I just recently changed the lamps in my two upgrade beds. One is the Starpower 548 and the other is the sundome. We lamped the Starpower with the Light Source Signature HP lamp and the Sundome with the Light Sorce Signature Series Plus. I dont feel like my customers are impressed with them. I try to explain that they are getting a deeper tan without the burn but they just want to see instant color. Is it better to have a lower B lamp or do you put something really strong in your upgrade beds? My lamps have under 100 hours and i would like to change then to something stronger but i dont want to throw all that money away. Would it be bad if i changed every other lamps to something with more of a kick?

[SUNNYDAYS]

In the bed with the sig Hp's alternate every other lamp with a Hereaus 20/160 or 23/160. That should give you the browning of the HP but a little kick to satisfy the clients, also you wont have to trash lamps that have less than 100 hours you can save them for the next lamp change.

You could probably do the same with the other bed but go with the 23/160's.

[Cassodo325]

That was what i wanted to do i just wanted to make sure it wouldnt stripe my customers.

[RobertK]

??? Sig Series plus lamp kicks butt in 12 minute applications!

[Cassodo325]

I have the Sig Series Plus in my 10 minute stand up and i have people going in everyother day and not noticing color for almost two weeks. One they get color its looks great but unless they get a month unlimited they dont see much.

[Shane]

Cassado,
What's your voltage to the bed?

the sig HP's kick butt in 12 minutes IMHO

[SUNNYDAYS]

You won't get stripes if you only do the canopy of the unit there is no need to do the bench. I don't think there will be any concernc with the stand up and stripes either since you are not laying on top of the lamps.

[Cassodo325]

Originally Posted by Shane

Cassado,
What's your voltage to the bed?

the sig HP's kick butt in 12 minutes IMHO

Im not sure but i know my husband just checked all the bed voltage recently. On my solar meter 5.0 they are reading at 39. Does that sound right?

[Drew]

use the Supra vhr's and you wont have to alternate anything. The extra b in the supras give it the zip and they have all the A of the sig hp's.

But I agree...sig hp's are no slouches and aren't "gentle" like what you are describing

[Cassodo325]

My base beds have LS Beach Sun lamps and i have had a few customers change from my Starpower and go into my base beds saying that they get more color in my base beds.

[Ed Staskus]

The Signature Series Plus is a strong lamp. Have you used it yourself? Do you get good results, or not? If not, there is something wrong with either your voltage or the bulb itself.

[Cassodo325]

Our voltage was wrong. They were only getting 190 instead of 240. The worst part is we lowered them before we changed the lamps. I guess my husband did something wrong when he first checked the voltage because they were reading 270 so he lowered them. I really hope we didnt lose any customers over it

[RobertK]

190 and the bed was still running? How did he lower the voltage from 270 to 190? The ETS beds only like about 230-235v or so. Anything more and you may have other issues!

[Cassodo325]

We are in the process of changing them all right now. They are now running at 228 instead of 190. They are also metering 5 points higher. Im not sure if that is huge difference.

[RobertK]

228V on ETS beds is just about as good as it gets. You readings on the Sig Series Plus should be over 50?

[Cassodo325]

When we checked the voltage before we were checking one leg at a time instead of going across both legs of power. (I know I'm an ass!) Anyway all the beds are reading 228v now, and they are reading about 5 to 7 points higher on a 5.0 meter. I guess this seems pretty close to what they should be?

Meter readings

160w Sig HP- 45.9
160w Sig Plus- 39.5
100w Beach Sun-24.5

[RobertK]

Lets see if John chimes in here. These are his lamps so he would know better. Boy those Sig Plus #'s seem low to me though....

[John]

Robertk,

All depends on the bed. Put the Sig HP's in a Sungate & it can meter 90, but in an S Class it can meter 75, put in a ETS bed around 50 is good at 228V. I would like to see the voltage up more around 235 on these units. I have plenty of customers who do it. You'll get much more kick out the Sig Plus if they are run at 235 also, especially in a stand up.

The Sig Plus should be spanking people in there.

[RobertK]

That what I thought. Thanks John.

[Cassodo325]

The stand up actually only metered at 31 after 9 minutes of running in my stand up and that was at the 228v. I dont think bumping the voltage up to 235v is going to get me up to 50. Im gonna bump it up but could there be anything else that would be causing me to get such a low reading????