Looking Fit, please take me off your email list

[phattmatt]

I can take you off of the e-mail list ... I'm thinking you mean for our e-newsletter, correct? (I just need to know what list so that I can have you taken off.)

Yes, please!

The mod den was rarely used by 5 of the above 8 current mods...

[Dmc5]

Looking at the new mod list, I do think Phattmatt has a point. I used to "hang out" on the site more (Quite a bit), and half those names are barely framiliar to me. No offense to anyone, I'm just sayin.' (I recognize them more from old thread searches) But now that it has been mentioned that hanging out is really not what the site is for, I have cut my time back.
Trying to go with the flow, but it feels more like swimming upstream.

"But now that it has been mentioned that hanging out is really not what the site is for, I have cut my time back."

Not sure what you mean by that?

[Kathe]

I hang out on the site every day I'm at the salon. It's always open on my computer. Not sure either what you mean either????

[kookyguy]

Originally Posted by dclark

As I mentioned in another thread, there are now 8 mods (not just Din). The current mods include:

Shane
Beach Bum
Natureboy
Macdaddy
Din
Frankie
Sparky
Kathe

Also mentioned in another thread, we are incoporating a private forum for the entire site, which is intended to be a place where salon owners can discuss things without concern that others can read what they post. The Den was not created to be a private place for people to discuss--aside from the moderators using it to discuss moderating.

I'm not a mod? All these years I thought I was mod! I am still the King, right?

[RobertK]

To be honest the site only needs 1 maybe 2 moderators. Moderators should be anonymous people that purely enforce the policies of the site. They should not be selling ANY products and do not even need to be in the industry. This way there is no bias or perceived bias.

There should also be some sort of group that adds content and direction to the site. They discuss and determine new sections and other ways to improve the site.

Two different functions done by different people.

[eileen]

Originally Posted by RobertK

To be honest the site only needs 1 maybe 2 moderators. Moderators should be anonymous people that purely enforce the policies of the site. They should not be selling ANY products and do not even need to be in the industry. This way there is no bias or perceived bias.

There should also be some sort of group that adds content and direction to the site. They discuss and determine new sections and other ways to improve the site.

Two different functions done by different people.

I agree to a point.

[eileen]

Which group would track fake members that are on the sites to promote their businesses faking to be owners to profit from the site without paying for ads.

[RobertK]

That would be a Mod task but......

Anybody could track and report them but only the Mod has the actual police powers.

[Kathe]

Originally Posted by eileen

Which group would track fake members that are on the sites to promote their businesses faking to be owners to profit from the site without paying for ads.

We are constantly watching for posters like this, removing their posts and banning the poster. If they haven't paid to sponsor the site, the post gets removed.

[swhitley]

Originally Posted by Jim Fisher

I think it was a very bad move taking 70% of your daily post people privileges away and taking away their den place. The mod thing is one thing but to take away the place where they could talk in a forum in privacy is another.
Looks like the only person that has mod status is Din. Taking away Brian who gave a spice to the site and no hold punches was a huge mistake.
I personally dont care if you took the status away from me but others cared.

We didn’t take anyone's posting privileges away. We just removed Mod status. We really hope all of our previous Mods continue to post and share with us.

[solarmeter®]

The "Mod Den" was a big deal back in Bruce days... like having the secret code or ring for entry past the rope line into an exclusive night spot.

We used to gossip and conspire about all kinds of crazy things... like how to set off Sheila vs Gary from Grip or Robbie from DarqueTan. Fun stuff. Bruce thru me out after a couple years for not enuf kudos to him or something like that.

Only missed it for a bit... then "moved on" as Maria used to say.

[eileen]

Robert -
if it's a mods task and they know nothing about tanning and the industry then the spammers would have a field day. If it's up to your group 2 to tell the mod then it's the group 2 actually making that decision not group 1.

Kathe - Yes I know that. But my question was for Robert's idea in this case.

[phattmatt]

"But now that it has been mentioned that hanging out is really not what the site is for, I have cut my time back."

Not sure what you mean by that?

Meaning, when certain ousted mods stop posting good readable content, (whether informational or entertaining)eyeballs go away because of a boring site.

[sunsally]

You will never make anyone happy with these sorts of decisions.

That said - for those of us who have "been around" (and I'm hardly the most senior!) there is a definitely some "ruffled feathers" about the selections made.

3 of the 8 are "sponsors" and promote their side businesses to salon owners (including Frankie for MRI). Doesn't make it wrong or right, good or bad -- but that has always been a "discussion point" for these sites that has been hotly debated.

Also - probably in general better to have the "admins" or "owners" replying in this thread - not an individual mod or two trying to be the "voice" for all, especially the newest member of the mod team.

Robert K makes a good point - it doesn't take 20 and it doesn't take 8 -- plus admins/owners -- to "mod" a site like this where behavior issues are generally minimized.

I think that is what some were trying to say -

[phattmatt]

To be honest the site only needs 1 maybe 2 moderators. Moderators should be anonymous people that purely enforce the policies of the site. They should not be selling ANY products and do not even need to be in the industry. This way there is no bias or perceived bias.

Salon owners are not needed for this, the magazine's people that run the magazine should be the only mods in this scenario

[RobertK]

Originally Posted by eileen

Robert -
if it's a mods task and they know nothing about tanning and the industry then the spammers would have a field day. If it's up to your group 2 to tell the mod then it's the group 2 actually making that decision not group 1.

Kathe - Yes I know that. But my question was for Robert's idea in this case.

You do not need to know anything about tanning to enforce policy. You only need to know policy. Now if you as a poster or you as a person in "group 2" see something you think is wrong then much like calling 911 to report a crime dial MOD and report the policy infraction. The Moderator will then see if indeed there is something wrong and act accordingly.

[eileen]

There you agree that group 2 would need to do group 1's job because group 1 would not be armed with the same knowledge and experience in the business.

[Maria]

Can't "live in the past" nor intend to disrespect the current owners and the recent path chosen to improve the site--however one of the many things that made the ORIGINAL Tantoday the valuable online resource it became was the ability of salonowners to discuss and express.

Times have changed...

A semi private online community, we had a nice nitch to share and exchange info with the the short lived comfort our competition was not one of the eyeballs lurking.

Forums of intense exchange of information, opinions and ideas--the result: online personalities developed, emerged and a tanning community was formed.

Bruce used to boast TT was better than the "rags". TT was live, the pulse of what was happening here and now. In the heyday of online, TT was the place to catch Sneak Peeks and Scoops of trade shows, lotions and equipment. Issues and theories were brought (or left) on the table. :-)

Those who were around understand.

Times change. Our industry has evolved and eclipsed.

Today, online is a shadow of it's former "glory days"-- a decent resource yes, but not vibrant with the passion of the day.

[EliteMike]

I really dont' know why you old modders need this forum to share ideas, pick up the phone or use instant message.